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Baltusrol Golf Course Information
Baltusrol by: willie 
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Rating: 3.5 | Total Votes: 29
File Size: 5.22 MB Game: Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2008
Released: Feb 8 09 @ 1:26:16 PM Views: 22,698
Downloads: 2,419 Yardage: 7,743
Course Type: Real Par: 72
 
Player Comments about Baltusrol
General Member raylloyd7
United Kingdom
Posted: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 @ 8:10:13 AM at | IP Logged

have to say i dont have any issues with this one i play advanced , looks fine, ok some greens are a littler over done, but all in all nothing wrong with it , many thanks for sharing.

General Member cpttedply
Canada
Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 @ 1:51:13 PM at | IP Logged

Real or fantasy who cares. this course is a challenge and thats what i look for. It is becoming one of my favs. Tks Willie

General Member gova
Australia
Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2009 @ 10:13:41 PM at | IP Logged

Hi Jimi and Ronburg,

Received and understood and I enjoy your courses, as well.

Well said, but could not resist how some people jump in only occasionally with these sort of comments and one person in particular who was pathetic and probably paranoid. hehehe

As I am a links player were the courses do look more realistic, I probably will be more concerned, if they are less than accurate.

This game is cartoonish and could never look real, so I am less bothered.

But despite that I have got used to the graphics and enjoy the playability and the game is lots of fun.

Keep on producing those innovative courses of yours Jimi, as I love them all and never know what to expect next.

Cheers
Brian

General Member jimi
Netherlands
Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2009 @ 4:25:58 PM at | IP Logged

Gova, there is no 'real course police,' although it's a nice thought in its own paranoid sort of way. There are just people who happen to be more or less familiar with the actual course and who are capable of making a comparison. If you announce your course as a ´real´ course it has to be as close to the real thing as possible. As Baltusrol is a fairly well known course, you can expect these comments. I wish players started paying a little attention to visual detail, as they would on a real course, instead of just rushing through it and deciding that it ´plays well´ as their main criteria for judging a design.

General Member ronbrug
Netherlands
Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2009 @ 3:22:31 PM at | IP Logged

When you design a real course,we gonne compare it.
Then we comment about it.
If he said its a fantasy course, kewl, but this course is famous.

General Member gova
Australia
Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2009 @ 7:02:48 AM at | IP Logged

Willie

Having read all these comments, I had to try your course and I was pleasantly surprised and enjoyed it immensely.

Some comments were constructive others were unbelievably destrucive(particularly the real course police)

You are certainly not a top designer, but not that far off and they are enjoyable and playable.

I look forward to your next course.

Brian

General Member George McGinn
United States of America
Posted: Saturday, February 14, 2009 @ 12:55:00 AM at | IP Logged

Whether the course is close in design to the real one matters not for someone who hasn't played it. I do not know how far away it is from the real course. If it is not even close, then it should be a fantasy with a "based on Baltusrol, I have added my own touch ..."

After saying that, this course is challenging, hard but fair on the greens (I try all new courses ADV, DRY and BREEZY and play it on my LAN/IP setting), and I have to say I was too busy planning my next shot instead of looking at the water not being flat! (I did not hit one water ball, so I might have seen that if I did hit the water).

I wish I had your skills designing courses. I've tried it many times and I personally appreciate the effort designers put into a course. I can tell Willie put some effort into this one. And I played on and commented on the really bad ones too!

Keep designing courses, and I know there are people here who will help if you ask. There are a lot of good suggestions and critiques. I thoroughly enjoyed playing this course.

General Member axe360
United States of America
Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 @ 11:23:43 AM at | IP Logged

I agree, and after 34 courses, how come the water is still not flat? I appreciate all the hard work willie puts into his courses, but he seems to miss some basic smoothing techniques and flattening of his water.
I am no big designer, but I would be more than happy to help out in anyway I can. With some smoothing and flat water, I think your courses would improve tremendously. I hope this is taken in the spirit of good constructive criticism.
Thanks willie. PM me anytime.
Larry

General Member jimi
Netherlands
Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 @ 7:23:49 AM at | IP Logged

"i see willie that some people just don't appreciate the hard work that goes into making these courses and too top it off you get nothing in return. you make some exellent courses willie and has far as i can see this course is as close as the real one. keep up the great work willie and am sure some day others will follow your work.

your bud
snowman"

Snowman, you don't get it. It is not a matter of not appreciating the hard work. Let's put it this way: you ask your buddy Willie to build you a house, even though he doesn't have a lot of experience. Now after he's finished you find the roof leaks, the windows won't shut properly and Willie forgot to put in a front door. You're happy, because it's better than no house at all. But you shouldn't get mad with people who tell yoy that Willie could have done a better job. All the "negative" comments I read about Baltusrol were actually quite constructive from a designer's point of view. I'm pretty sure Willie has taken them in that way. I wish you could too.

General Member Bobby Bolin
United States of America
Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 @ 10:52:21 PM at | IP Logged

This one just didn't do it for me. There were a lot of invisible textures around hole 4. The course was not very accurate to the real course. The pano definitely did not fit. The terrain work was smooth, although I do not feel it represented Baltusrol effectively. I understand hard work goes into every course released, but I think more hard work was needed with this one.

General Member Snowman
Canada
Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 @ 8:50:54 PM at | IP Logged

I see willie that some people just don't appreciate the hard work that goes into making these courses and too top it off you get nothing in return. You make some exellent courses Willie and has far as I can see this course is as close as the real one. Keep up the great work Willie and am sure some day others will follow your work.

Your Bud
Snowman

General Member antbow64d
United States of America
Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 @ 7:01:51 PM at | IP Logged

played this course on very dry greens heavy rough very difficult pins a real fun course. very challengeing leave the driver home almost lol.keep up the good work a real keeper.

General Member ronbrug
Netherlands
Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 @ 1:46:24 PM at | IP Logged

All i can see is , read alot off theses ones, http://coursedownloads.com/tutorials/tutorials.asp?id=5

General Member Rita D
United States of America
Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 @ 9:54:43 AM at | IP Logged

I thought your course was realy nice it is a tough one to. keep up the good work.

General Member jmeier
United States of America
Posted: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 @ 4:58:23 AM at | IP Logged

Didn't indicate wether this was the Upper or Lower Course, It appears to try and resemble the lower course. The yardages are way off, the par of the holes is not correct, the layout of the holes is not even close. The elevations are very inaccurate. The only thing I think this has in common with Batusrol Golf Club is the name was chosen. The pano is not correct for the area, I have never seen alpine mountains in New Jersey. Aside from the lack of resemblance to Baltusrol, I found many terrible terrain defects in the first several holes I played. The lag was terrible. My frame rates rarely ever topped over 30. A stock course for me runs anywhere from 75 to 95 fps, so this one was really bad. I didn't go beyond the fourth hole. I have to say this one needs to go back to the drawing board for some additional work.


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General Member thuringen
Australia
Posted: Monday, February 9, 2009 @ 9:33:15 PM at | IP Logged

Exactly,Backdraft.I find it very frustrating when a course is categorized as real,but when you download it,it bears little resemblence to the actual course.I defy anyone to say that this is an accurate representation of Baltusrol after comparing the real course(via photo,s,google earth,etc...particularly the 4th and 17th holes) with Willie's one.

Willie,i do understand how difficult it is to design course particularly real ones,but if it is not accurate dont categorise it as real.I have enjoyed many of your other designs and think you are good at designing,i did not mean to criticize you directly but just your attempt at this course.

Simon.

General Member Backdraft
United States of America
Posted: Monday, February 9, 2009 @ 7:34:17 PM at | IP Logged

Heitchue21 I think thuringen is just stating that the course is not realistic. I haven't played it yet so I don't know but thuringgen seems like he knows the course and to simply state that its a wonderful course without knowing what the course really looks like doesn't help the people who DL it and find out later that its not a realistic representation. These courses are hard to replicate but if you are going to put that it is a real course many people are going to expect it to be a good replica.

Willie I am sure the comments were made in an effort to help you. Like I said I have not tried the course so i really don't know how it is. Keep your chin up and keep on working on them. The more you do the better you understand the CA has all kinds of tricks to learn. Good luck on your future courses.

General Member thuringen
Australia
Posted: Sunday, February 8, 2009 @ 11:23:33 PM at | IP Logged

I am saying it is not a realistic representation of Baltusrol.

Simon.

General Member Heitchue21
United States of America
Posted: Sunday, February 8, 2009 @ 9:09:50 PM at | IP Logged


Nice job Willie,who made"Simon" the course authority? lol

General Member thuringen
Australia
Posted: Sunday, February 8, 2009 @ 6:21:26 PM at | IP Logged

I usually don't comment unless the course is really good or really bad,well this rendition of Baltusrol is absolutely terrible and a huge disappointment.If you look at the layout of the real course,there is barely any resemblence to this one.The fairways are to narrow and the trees way out of proportion and what is with the pano totally out of place for Baltusrol.
I don't mean to be harsh but after wanting a good representation of Baltusrol in TW08,i was hugely disappointed.
Please can someone make this course realisticly.

Simon.

 
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