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Good Morning Gents. I am designing a new, real course; my first. I eagerly started matching flora, and now have too many Libraries. Is there a way, besides visually, to identify which plantings come from which Library?
Next, usually Ts n Stakes tee markers show as black cubes, only rarely in their correct colors. Any suggestions? I have planted them in the ground, not, scaled them, deleted and replaced them.... I have not fiddled with Options setting, as I would expect the normal user to use default settings. I'd like to have the model work with defaults, as other user designed courses work fine like that.
Last, one hole persistently causes a program failure. However, when I jump to the next, adjacent hole, then play the balky one, it works fine. I have compiled it without plantings, which seems to solve the problem. Reducing plantings does not.
My background is engineering, computers, topo mapping for acoustics programming. I think I have a fair understanding of how CA works, yet, these anamolies plague me.
My thanks for all the work you all have done on providing spectacular course models. My plan is to do several 'workingman's courses in eastern PA. Public and semi-private courses I have played for many years, and which have challenging layouts. The course I am doing here is Green Hills, located near Birdsboro, PA. It is a nine hole course that sits on a steepish hill. Some holes afford terrible sidehill lies, others dogleg up and down the hill, with elevation changes on the order of 60 feet. Local Philadelphia pros play Green Hills for tuning, away from the public.
Other courses I'd like to do are Galen Hall, maybe The Manor, and at least the back nine of Fox Hollow.
Very best, and thanks much in advance for your time. I would be happy to send files if that would help.
Frank Rehill, who used to play an infrequent nine at par. |
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Hi...
Did you use this tool in coursearchitect: Optimize detail
The Optimize detail tool can fix a lot of thing in coursearchitect.
You can find more info about the Optimize detail tool in Coursearchitect manual on: page 143 to page 146.
Another tool is: Repair course
You can find more info about the Repair course tool in Coursearchitect manual on: page 87 and page 151
You can download the Coursearchitect manual on link below:
http://www.coursedownloads.com/extras/details.asp?id=662
Another great tool is a program named: Cloaking Tool
When you have more then 40 or 50 libraries installed in TW06...coursearchitect will crash or will not work very well.
With Cloaking tool ( CL tool )you can cloak (disable) libraries in TW06.
So you can cloak (disable) all libraries in TW06 that you don t need in your new course, this way Coursearchitect will run much smoother.
When you installed cloaking tool you will see there is an inbuild help section how to use.
You can download Cloaking tool on link below:
http://www.coursedownloads.com/extras/details.asp?id=715
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Hi
Download TW08 Tree Pix available in TW2008 Utilities under Course Design Tools. This shows a larger pic of all the plants from the TW2008 stock courses and makes it easier to identify the plants used. Try using a 2008 library for the tee markers, using older libraries can cause objects to appear black. |
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| Another method to identify plants is right click on the plant, select properties, click on pic of plant and the Librarian opens. The name of the library in use is slightly higher than the other library names. |
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Hi, Thank you for the most speedy reply. In accordance with the tutorials, I have been using Course Repair and Optimize regularly, and check for objects - areas with high point count. None exceed maybe... 900.
I have no problem with the functioning of CA. It is with the compiled course run in TW08 where the program locks up.
However, Jimbo's comments offer a possible path. See my reply there. Again, my best thanks for the suggestions.
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Jimbo,
I did not see any noticeable difference in Library 'standing out'. However, your comment on tees, suggesting I use a more current library may hold more of an answer. It's possible that the flora used on the balky hole is from an older library. I did not mention it earlier, but here are additional things I see on that hole. The green is very distant. When it loads, the plantings around the green show as black boxes. When I press the Estimate key and move forward, the boxes are replaced by the appropriate trees. Sometimes the result holds, and sometimes reverts to boxes when I leave Estimate. As that hole was the very first one I modelled, it's possible that I have some old library plantings that are nor elsewhere. I shall download the Tree viewer you mentioned and do the work. I did notice that in the Picker, if I right click on some trees, they blow up bigger, although this is not the case always.
You've given me a few things to look for. As with many programs, when one first uses them, it's hard to know where to look for resolution. My thanks.
The real course is so good. I have played it for more than twenty years. The model has all the 'member' bounces built in, greens replicate reality. I am using very dry setting, with max green slopes near 5.5 - 6 %, which yield downhillers drifting, drifting just coming to a stop on two of the greens, which, if one is in the wrong part of the green for real, is exactly the result. CA is a formidible tool. I am ever amazed at how good it is. |
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Thanks for the pointer to TreePix, Jimbo. Please pass on my thanks for the great inventory to SandSaver. One day I'll figure out how to email here.
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You can send a private message to any of the members of this site via the messenger tab above. The black rectangles issue is a long standing issue in TW2008 and the only way to resolve it seems to be to set the shader level to the low setting when playing the game. Difficult to work out why your course is crashing. |
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along the lines of what jimbo said, you can also try setting your shader to low....that will make the TSN tees look better or any black object for that matter...
Your tree's that are showing as Blocky are probably from a 2006 library...Once you use too many plantings from a 2006 Lib they can look like that. try and only use 2007/2008 plantings.
you can select all of one type of plant by holding ctrl and double clicking the plant.
this may be useful for you if your not sure what plant you have. Plant a plant, hold ctrl and double click it...see if any identical plants are chosen.
you can then replace all of a selected plant by right clicking the one of the selected plants and choosing something else....all of them will change.
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This how you can send message to other member:
On top of homepage hit: Messenger.....on next page choose: Buddy list.....choose: Add new buddy.....find player ( type name in the search box and hit: search ). When you found the player hit: Add....and the member will be added to your buddy list.
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Gunpower61 - Thanks for the how-to write emails!
BGravoliciou - I do recall the multiple replace method. However, I forgot the detailed keystrokes. Thanks for them, and the suggestion on finding by adding one. Great idea.
To All - You all have provided meaningful ideas. I did in fact toss all the flora, and the balky load resolved itself. One more remaining issue I'll write as a sepate post.
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Hello to All,
Having tossed all the greenery, the model works very well. I will replace flora with 2008 objects, as suggested. The compromise on appearance will be tolerated. Use of TreePix will make it a breeze.
HOWEVER, I am left with a list of Library for the model that are no longer needed, as displayed on the Properties tab of the CA model. Deleting the referenced object seems not to delete it's Library. (I may have latent objects somewhere as well resulting in persisting libraries....
I seem to recall reading either in Tutorials or Forums that there is a way to flush un-needed Libraries. Can you offer an assist?
I dumped swap files in CA06...
Thanks for your time and support.
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Sometimes there are sticky libraries, you can delete sticky libraries with CLtool06 (; cloaking tool ).
Some help how to remove sticky libraries in second post on link below:
http://www.coursedownloads.com/forum/posts.asp?post=7892&forum=11
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Thanks Gun! As I recall, Cloak can only cloak Libraries that show as installed in CL06. The two offending Libraries do not show in CL06. Thus, I cannot uninstall them, nor cloak them. However, each time I attempt to install them new via CL06, it reports that they aleady exist on the system..., must uninstall them, to install newer versions... which may not work with ...courses....
TRAP.
I searched the computer Registry for such files or reference thereto - found nothing. I have uninstalled TW06, CL06, and reinstalled. Nothing solved. Seems CL06 has a reference to these two files, tucked away somewhere. |
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| Posted: Sunday, February 6, 2011 at
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| Have you tried fixing sticky libs by creating a project in the Cloaking Tool? |
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Hi Jim,
I did that. There were several stickies shown, which it fixed. However, the two structure files (one Ts n stakes, the other CocotourneyStructures) were not shown in Cloak.
After rebooting several times to cleanse remnants, etc. I finally tried yet another approach, which was to Strip a copy of the .TCA
The strip function left geographic info, ground objects like tees, fairways, pond, greens, just removing trees and tees. So I was happy, as I was gonna redo the flora anyways to reduce libraries and stay with 08 stuff. Looked good. Then, as soon as I touched the new, stripped TCA, CA froze. Reboot, same result, and again. Although the Library list is nice, the TCA is inoperable. Gimme a break. Or a Xanax!
I did finish the last two holes before all this, still with large library and barren flora. It plays ever so true. The greens on the easier holes, as in real life, are almost Augusta fast in areas where balls don't belong, well mimicking the real course.
The URL for the real course is a doozey of colors, although there is a "Strategy Guide" on the left of the screen written by one of the owner's young men that rings the right alarms on dangers:
http://golfgreenhills.com/index.htm
Best, and again, much thanks,
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| Did you try uninstalling those libs with the Course Utilities file which is available in the bin folder in the 2006 game? |
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| Yes, Jim. It too does not recognize they exist. Not listed. |
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| Posted: Sunday, February 6, 2011 at
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| Sorry Frank I cannot think of anything else that might help you. |
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| Posted: Sunday, February 6, 2011 at
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Frank try this link that I have just spotted
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