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| Posted: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 at
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| all most every course I work on leans to the left. I have to constantly flatten tee boxes and greens. Is there something I can do ? Im using 3 dem and TA for the terrain. When I flatten the whole work plot i get bad tears on the edges. |
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 at
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You will always have to flatten tee boxes. I increase the shape of the tee box by 5ft or so, then flatten that, then smooth the outer shape, so as not to have to touch the tee box. Of course there are probly many other methods. The green are a bit different, sometimes there not that bad and sometimes they need flattened before you can use them. But I dont think I had to flatten any greens first, on my last course..
Also, when you say you, flatten the whole work plot, what exactly do you mean by that? I wouldnt think you mean you are flattening the Entire Plot?..
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 at
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| yes I do mean the entire plot because it will lean left from the tee box , fairway also leans heavy to the left. I built my home town course and I know for a fact that it does not lean. Actually my home course is pretty flat. thanks for the reply. |
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| edited by: fedexfrt357 on
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| i would think something must have gone wrong in the 3dem/TA part of the project. I see no other reason for the entire plot to lean...unless it was one large hill/slope...?? :) |
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 at
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Hmm, Ive never noticed that. But if you flatten the entire plot, wont that ruin all the elevations?
Id be interested in some pics, if you could.. Just out of curiosity.. Im afraid I wouldnt know why they lean to the left..
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 at
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| Could be selecting the the wrong type of DEM when importing to TA. |
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| just built this hole, green leans 8'. this hole is unplayable as the ball will always roll back down if missed.How is the best way to flatten the green. smoothing with the slider all the way to the right doesnt seem to work. |
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 at
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| I always pick geotiff, change projection then NAD 27 |
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 at
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| Well the elevations aren't going to be exact, just a general feeling of the overall terrain of the course. You will still have to do some work. |
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 at
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| ok, thanks bobby, the tees I can flatten, no problem, the greens are a headace. cant seem to flatten them no matter what I try. The only thing that worked was picking up the fairway cut using that shape to flatten but it flattened the fairway as well. Work to do but love it. I enjoy building courses more than playing them. Thanks again. |
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Maybe you can use flatten tool to maximum height of green if the slope is just too much from what TA did to it. I think this would raise the whole green to highest level, and then you have to do all you elevations work from scratch on greens while trying to copy it from picture or any info you can get on course. If the greens are level with ground on real course, and arent raise up from ground. I would probably make a hole on green with hill tool to the depth of what the surround ground is, and then flatten the green area to lowest level(;hole you made on green with hill tool) to get it level with surrounding ground. After getting green elevations where theyre suppose to be. Id start making it like the real course is.
Starting to see why its soooooo huge to have much info on a real course if the TA does this kinda of stuff sometimes.
I dont understand much about TA right now, but form the little rumblings/readings Ive picked up on here & there. From what I understanding the TA get things kinda close, but it can also make a mess of the plot too sometimes. If it gets things off, there is much work left to be done to get things just right on hole themselves. Not sure, but I myself would like to know if getting a better DEM number makes a difference in how close the elevations are going to be. My guess is yes it would, but not sure. One designer sent me a picture of a hole that TA elevations made on a real course he was doing. He had to flatten the whole area where the hole was, and make the hole from scratch pretty much like if it was a new flat CA plot in that area alone. The TA got the plot good for how the course elevations where, but not exact enough to go on without correcting things........
Not 100% sure with this, and I myself will be trying to learn TA again sometime soon myself............
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 at
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There's some great tutorials under the tutorial and or utilities sections..Here's one..
http://coursedownloads.com/tutorials/view.asp?id=27 |
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| thought I read all the tutorials, must have missed that one. It's awsume. thank you boze. |
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| Thanks to homeboy and everyone else who have spent their time and efforts towards this site. |
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| Posted: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 at
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Always use the drg, that takes care of the plot being in the right place.
I never use coordinates, on the semaless site , ill type in the place where my course is , then ill look and drag the place i want to download, the dem size is bigger then the orthoimage, in 3dem ill make them the same size when i loaded the orthoimage then then enter. |
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| Posted: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 at
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| I learned it the right way whit this tutorial, for me the best one there is. |
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| whose tutorial is that? |
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| Posted: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 at
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| Flatten smooth repeat many times.. Work it man work it... If it was easy then anyone could do it.. :) |
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Cool
Thanks for that tutorial Ronburg...... :)
I will try to understand this TA soon, and any knowledge is great for this goal. it's whipped me a few times already with my attempts to get it right, and hopefully I can get understood so I can try to make a real course.
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