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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 9:52:34 PM | IP Logged


ron717 said:
"Larry, can you move the point to the plot, if so move to plot and delete on the plot. you can
try to uncheck all the tee boxes to see if this will restore the shot path also.

ron"


No sir, I tried I can't move it.. These are all gr8 ideas, we are going thru methodically and trying ideas one at a time so we don't get to lost. Fedexfrt357 is having a go at it too, he seems to remember having this problem, so we will see what happens.

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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 10:11:42 PM | IP Logged

Hi it is I he he C:, This was a course I played for years on TW05 without any troubles! Ive tried all the suggestions but I think the point that cannot be accessed is the tee position its also outside the course boundry which is why its a bit aloof!:D.How this has occurred is baffling as I played a rnd last night before knockin off and it was fine,I played a rnd today,it froze on the 6th,I loaded the CA and noticed the problem! Never seen it before. PC:  
 
 
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 10:20:13 PM | IP Logged

Yes, because when you drop the shot points on the tee's and the next one you try to drop on the fairway, comes from that spot way off the plot. You dont see anything coming from the ones on the tee box, it comes from off the plot as if that was another tee. Strange.. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 10:30:50 PM | IP Logged

Was this shot path created before a perimeter change by an accident? 
 
 
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 10:40:06 PM | IP Logged

edited by: axe360 on Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 10:41:00 PM
 
Hey Boze, he said he had been playing the course for a while then suddenly this happened, but he already had all the shot paths down. So he must have done something and just needs to remember.

Also strange, is that when you go to put the next shot point on the fairway, and like I said it comes from the top left off the plot, that first one has no yardage yet, then when you place another one, you get yardages.

Its like that is a 6th tee point, but coming from off the plot..

I told him to hang in there.... Sorry, I dont believe there has been a parimeter change yet. I tried it for him and no help there. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 10:51:01 PM | IP Logged

Strange puzzle indeed... 
 
 
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 11:47:40 PM | IP Logged

This is starting to look like a job for Oz...:) 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 at 12:02:54 AM | IP Logged

Any chance you've added galleries lately? This is a problem that can happen when adding galleries, it can take 1 shot path marker and move it off the plot like what happened to you, and because it's off the plot, you can't delete it in the CA. I can't remember if it worked, but it may be fixable by going to the position.ini file (located in C:\Program Files\EA SPORTS\Course Architect 06\Bin) and delete the shot path locations for the hole in question in that file.

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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 at 12:09:53 AM | IP Logged


This is something that surely needs a bump to top...........

Good luck finding this problem, and I have no idea after the delete suggestion didn't work.
Very strange, and this goes along with my thinking that CA has a mind of it's own sometimes, I swear it does.... :P

This one is surely for the A team
Mr. T !!!!!!!!

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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 at 12:59:12 AM | IP Logged

Pete,
When you sent me the tcr to test, i didnt have a problem with hole 6 at yardage of 497. Hole 15 aimed me to the left but not off the plot and then back to the hole at a yardage of 563. Could 15 be the root of the problem?  
 
 
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I tried some of nutwoodys suggestions as I did add some galleries yesterday.When trying to delete them Im suffering ctds.As rslay says a similar thing happened on fifteen the other night but it didn't place the shot path out of the park so it was easilly fixed!

 
 
 
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 at 1:33:59 AM | IP Logged

edited by: fedexfrt357 on Monday, August 24, 2009 at 7:03:00 AM
 
delete your swap files and when you are deleting the galleries, sometimes you can only use the define hole window delete button to highlight the gallery path, then use mouse to select and delete with keyboard...your crashes should stop.... :)

make any sense...? maybe...? lol 
 
 
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 at 9:13:14 AM | IP Logged

edited by: fedexfrt357 on Monday, August 24, 2009 at 9:20:00 AM bad link
 
the only way i was able to get this to go away so far was to strip it...
tried deleting all the galleries (;then ca crashes when trying to select holes with definition tool) (;swap files empty)
tried deleting all structures / objects / sounds...
tried deleting all tees / shot paths / pins...and reworking all with just one tee / pin

also looked at the position.ini file... didnt see any coordinates that looked odd or out of line...but...lol


http://www.datafilehost.com/download-c9e8dc7e.html (;copy of position.ini file if anyone would like to take a look)

heres a couple of pics... 
 
 
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 at 9:17:26 AM | IP Logged

sorry...thought the pics would be bigger...lol
bottom one shows hole 6 with only the red tee placed and first shot point only (like axe said) nothing shows from the tee...only from the great beyond... 
 
 
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 at 9:44:42 AM | IP Logged

edited by: axe360 on Monday, August 24, 2009 at 9:45:00 AM
 
Very good work fedex, as I too had to strip the course and that actually fixed the problem, yes the little shot point was up in the corner after i stripped it, but after i started dropping shot paths, it went away.. Notice hole 6 is now defined..:)

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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 at 9:48:11 AM | IP Logged

sweet job axe, same result here... sure would be nice to save him all that work again tho wouldnt it.. ? lol 
 
 
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 at 10:07:09 AM | IP Logged

Not only that, but it sure would be nice to know exactly what was the problem, as stripping removes several different things at one time. I was thinking about Jim's suggestion about the galleries, but you are right again, in that you have to remove them manually, if you don't then the CA does crash.. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 at 10:27:21 AM | IP Logged

The only time I've ever had problems like this had to do with galleries as well, mainly deleting them causes the shot path to go haywire. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 at 11:44:53 AM | IP Logged

edited by: axe360 on Monday, August 24, 2009 at 11:45:00 AM
 

jmwall24 said:
"Any chance youve added galleries lately? This is a problem that can happen when adding galleries, it can take 1 shot path marker and move it off the plot like what happened to you, and because its off the plot, you cant delete it in the CA.
Good luck,
~jm"


I think jim is on to something here PCDurum, I would try deleting the galleries before stripping the entire course, what could it hurt? 
 
 
 
 

 
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Bobby Bolin said:
"The only time I've ever had problems like this had to do with galleries as well, mainly deleting them causes the shot path to go haywire."


Thx Bobby

Hey PCD... do you have any saved ca files before or during your gallery installs ? 
 
 
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