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| Posted: Sunday, April 26, 2009 at
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I didnt realize there was such problem with this game like this. I made a few posts here, and in those postings, I somehow got explaining my experiences with 3-click compared to true-swing. Now after reading this, I didnt realize I brought up such a sore subject when I talked about these things. Just was explaining why I like true-swing now after trying it out.
People who use software or programs in games to get a advantage are cheating themselves out of a cool experience playing straight up, and I will never understand why someone would want to cheat because how could winning that way feel good, but I guess winning is more important to some than enjoying the game for what it offers. I just started this game, and like true-swing after I tried it the first time not long ago. After seeing just how deep this true-swing -vs- 3-clicker problem is, I will refrain from talking about it after this post. I play freehand true-swing, and always will because I like how it makes the game like real life golf when playing a round.
Im assuming this edging is when someone takes a straight edge & runs the mouse on it so the club swings straight. I can see where this would give a advantage to someone, but I can understand why some use it too. Some players might not be able to hit the ball OK without it, and after trying expert the other day for the first time with true-swing. Im not sure if I will ever hit the ball straight playing expert, but Im going to practice my freehand true-swing until I can at least get par one day. Thats my goal for this game, and whatever you want out of this game, its your right to play the way you want to, but if it involves using some software or codes Ive read about in this thread. Thats not cool at all to cheat like that to win. Boo on you, if you use programs to cheat in this game, and just like in real life. There is always some bad apples messing things up for honest people.
I think it might be best if I dont learn about the darkness of TW..........LOL
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I just finished reading this entire thread and am amazed. I am in my 50's and just started playing this game recently. I have had other years of TW, but didn't like the graphics until I now have the PC that I can play this game and have great fun. What I find funny in this debate is that most everyone refers to the "game." And to me that is what it is.. just a game. I have always marveled at my son and his gaming and the acquisition of "cheat codes." What the heXX are you playing the game for if you need cheat codes?... for that matter help in playing the game.
In real life I am a terrible golfer. When I am playing the game, it gives me the ability to play much better (using the Novice setting and TS) without cheating. Golf is a supposed to be a game played by gentleman. One it which you call penalties on yourself for violating the rules even if no one else knows. At this point, I have not played online..mainly because I am new, but also I am only on an aircard because we do not have cable or DSL in my area yet. For that reason, I believe it is too slow to make it fun. I am having fun playing offline for now though.
Even now, I do not use "aids" to help my skill level. The ony thing I do is adjust the mouse or mouse pad positions to get better shots. I do have a laser mouse, so some might say I have better equipment. Well isn't that what real golf is like anyway? Some players, even pro's have better equipment than the others depending on the design. I have a natural draw and have a devil of a time adjusting my mouse path to overcome that. Even the pro's have a "tendancy" to hit the ball a certain way and have to compensate. I have yet to see one use an "aid" to correct that tendancy.
For now, I will play the game the way it is meant to be played. Afterall, it is just a game. |
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I've never weighed in here on this issue. For me it is first personal, then communal,and occasionaly head-to-head. Very often I realize you are all of my internal world: the unconscious collective and a good source of interplay within me. I've tried both types of swing: Three-click and True Swing. For me three-click is too mechanistic, robotic and distracting--it has no experience of flow for me. My ranking, such as it is (I think I have one!) is true. My accuracy in true-swing, without focus goes off.
Perhaps this question of one vs. the other (which is not an opposition to me) is in fact a metaphysical one. My ranking is what it is because I adhere to being just. My life is one of self-examination and evaluation. The game is played from the Presence of that reality. If I do well--it's a good day, or my practice has earned it. My self esteem is my own to have win or lose and not simply losing myself in play as opposition to others, but as a complementary striving to achieve my best. Yes there is a certain thrill and satisfaction of material measure, but it can be merely reflective of near perfect moments in a complex world.
Bent of mind, access base of alternative skill sets, and aesthetics all play their part. To each, simply his own; and to each his own sense of justice. Everyone has their own karma and realization in THE GAME. Hope this makes sense. All the best and let's play golf! |
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| "...metaphysical... All the best and lets play golf!" |
hmmmm.... yes... like a true Jedi knight speak you!
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"I've never weighed in here on this issue. For me it is first personal, then communal,and occasionaly head-to-head. Very often I realize you are all of my internal world: the unconscious collective and a good source of interplay within me. I've tried both types of swing: Three-click and True Swing. For me three-click is too mechanistic, robotic and distracting--it has no experience of flow for me. My ranking, such as it is (I think I have one!) is true. My accuracy in true-swing, without focus goes off.
Perhaps this question of one vs. the other (which is not an opposition to me) is in fact a metaphysical one. My ranking is what it is because I adhere to being just. My life is one of self-examination and evaluation. The game is played from the Presence of that reality. If I do well--it's a good day, or my practice has earned it. My self esteem is my own to have win or lose and not simply losing myself in play as opposition to others, but as a complementary striving to achieve my best. Yes there is a certain thrill and satisfaction of material measure, but it can be merely reflective of near perfect moments in a complex world.
Bent of mind, access base of alternative skill sets, and aesthetics all play their part. To each, simply his own; and to each his own sense of justice. Everyone has their own karma and realization in THE GAME. Hope this makes sense. All the best and let's play golf!" |
WOW! And I thought it was just a game lol |
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Kieronbwfc said "Wow and I thought it was just a game."
Surely you jest. ;) So many words in this thread for, "just a game". Look at the older history of this thread in the forums.
In any case what was an apparent end to the conversation to 'my' mind is just what I shared.
Of course in the balance there will likely always be further chatter about this. Human nature.
From what I understand this site has made every effort to curtail the effects of cheating.
What more can they do? Being called one online--the risks of gaming with some.
By the way, the word 'Game' has been linked with Consciousness itself--"The Game of Consciousness".
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| Wow, this has got to be one of the longest threads I've read on this site. I just want to express my unsolicited opinion. There's much more to playing this game than hitting the ball straight. Surely, straight shots are a plus, but calculating distance along with wind speed, wind direction, elevation and lie are just as important and, to me, more challenging in making a good shot-regardless of swing method. |
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| LOL. Rob, all that kinda becomes moot if you can't hit the ball straight............. |
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| LOL, I suppose that's true if you end up in the woods or some other hazard. The point is that hitting the ball straight everytime does not a winner make. |
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As an aspiring designer, I would like to know:
Are there design features, styles or methods(doglegs, hazard placement, etc.) that are disadvatageous to edgers?
I hope maybe I can get an answer or two here. I did not want to start another thread! |
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"Kieronbwfc said "Wow and I thought it was just a game."
Surely you jest. ;) So many words in this thread for, "just a game". Look at the older history of this thread in the forums.
In any case what was an apparent end to the conversation to 'my' mind is just what I shared.
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Sorry, but you know that it ain't over "till the fat lady sings." ..and I don't even hear her warming up. ;-) |
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| edited by: lomboyst on
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| thats an ace on every hole,impressive,the sad thing is EASO does nothing about it. |
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| edited by: kieronbwfc on
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Taken from his player page
Wind Jammer 08
Registered: 2008
Level: Legend 10 Pro-Play Ranking: 224
Rating: 2498 Matches: 300
Level Points: 1,817,160 Disconnects: 5 (;0.02%)
Tokens: 1,953,406 Reminders: False
Club Name: (;1) Cheat Police!
[Cheat Police! Club Logo]
Recent Tournaments
Name R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 Score Strokes
S T O N E @ 420 36 -53 36.0
-o- H A S H -o- 36 -54 36.0
5555555555555555 36 -54 36.0
Wonder if the club name has anything to do with it?
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