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Gunpower61
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 5:29:37 AM | IP Logged

Hello azsmoodz, nice to help a fellow golfer, but i am afraid it is not allowed to attach CGX libraries on Coursedownloads.
In the past we needed permission of CGX site to share cgx libraries. As long as we have no agreement with CGX site or CGX administrators, then it is not allowed.
Not sure what the future will bring, but for now sharing CGX libraries is not allowed i am afraid. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 4:54:41 PM | IP Logged


Gunpower61 said:
"Hello azsmoodz, nice to help a fellow golfer, but i am afraid it is not allowed to attach CGX libraries on Coursedownloads.
In the past we needed permission of CGX site to share cgx libraries. As long as we have no agreement with CGX site or CGX administrators, then it is not allowed.
Not sure what the future will bring, but for now sharing CGX libraries is not allowed i am afraid."



If he was a member of CGX would it be permissible to email him a lib?
Just wondering out loud. 
 
 
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 7:11:10 PM | IP Logged

As I stated before it goes against all the rules, that members agreed to share courses or Libraries created for CGX, of course, no one can stop anyone from mailing someone a library by PM can they.
I have done it myself, but that was when the site was up and running and it was needed for a particular tournament.
Their is a big difference between that and this. 
 
 
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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 7:22:10 PM | IP Logged

All I can say after the site being down for so long is, The site, were it be PGAX or CGX was Jim's one true Passion outside of work and personal life and he would have done anything and everything to keep it going, after 2 emails and still no word to me or anyother Admin, I can only assume he has not contacted us or restored the site because he is unable to, not through any fact that he wasn't capable of, but I now fear my very good friend of aq decade or more may no longer be with us, or a condition, such as a stroke may have rendered him incapable of, which makes me terrible sad, if it is the case I have lost two great friends Jim amd the site I loved so much.

This is my last post, may God Bless all who new and participated with the site, you have left me with many happy memories, I will always cherish.



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Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 11:31:17 PM | IP Logged

edited by: SIRPUTTERMAN on Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 11:32:00 PM
 
Bruce it could be for many reasons that Jim has not replied not the least being a personal issue that he does not feel like sharing with anyone at the moment. I hope he is all right also and maybe he just felt it was time to let the site go due to any number of reasons. It could be time restraints or a change of interests or simply the cost of running the site was getting to a point that it wasn''t feasable anymore.It may be that we will never know what happened.

It is sad that if it was a financial issue that something wasn''t mentioned before the site went down. Oh I know they did have the donation to the site costs thing but other then that there wasn''t anything ever brought up about it. Again though it may be something completly different so no point on trying to specualte what exactly happened.

If in fact it is done which appears to be the case I too hope that everyone is well and this finds you all doing well.

you can find in on PP occasionally either in the forums or playing. I haven''t been playing much mind you but you might want to give it another shot Bruce as the last update did help clear up a lot of the lag issues. Anyways if anyone is on the site or in game my name is the same as it is here so leave me a pm or give me a shout in the game.

Take care and God bless you all I hope we cross paths again either on PP or back at CGX if we are so fortunate. If not I wish every one a fond fairwell and for good things to come into your lives.

It''s been 7 years as a member of PGAX/CGX and its been a hell of a ride. Yes some bumps along the way but also many good times and friends made too. Its been a pleasure gentlemen to spend the time we have together and an honor.

Catch you on the links on one game or another along the way. Keep it in the short grass and don''t forget to smell the flowers along the way.

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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:05:06 PM | IP Logged

If I may comment on the matter of courses and libraries... I would think that while the designers were creating the courses and libraries solely for use on CGX, if CGX is no more, ownership of those courses and libraries would then revert back to the designers themselves, and therefore it would be up to them to decide whether or not to upload them to this or any other site. References to CGX would need to be removed, but the courses and libraries belong to the designes unless CGX was in some way compensating the designers, thereby taking ownership of the files. If not, the courses and libraries, while being made available exclusively to CGX, remain property of the designers, and therefore it is their property to decide how to proceed when it comes to sharing that with the community.

BTW, I am not a lawyer, I just play one on the internet, so this may not hold up legally, but logically I think that would be how the issue breaks down.

As for CGX in general, I hope it comes back, as I genuinely enjoyed not only playing on the tours, but also in the operation of the Clambakers Tour. I really appreciated being able to keep alive the first tour that I joined. I had so much fun there over the years, and I was happy to be able to keep that going for others who also enjoyed it. With luck, CGX will return, and Clams along with it. But if it does not, I hope everyone had as much fun as I did.

I'll keep checking back here and at the site address to see if anything has changed. 
 
 
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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2015 at 10:34:05 PM | IP Logged

I know I wasn't gonna post anymore on this, but after reading Dave's comments, he is absolutelly right, and as far as Clams, Their are very talented folk here, that could do what Jim did and resurrect Clammies, I do not know if Jim has sole rights to clams, but if he hasn't The owner of this site, Mitch and Jeff Jarvis, who I stated before is an IP specialist, and if JB and any other admin here, are willing to contribute to getting Clams up and going for Dave to once again take charge of it, and run it just as succesfully as he did over at CGX, JB may feel after all the time and contributions he put in at CGX may prefer to now take it easy and step aside to any involvment. But certainly Clams could easily be up and running in no time with the permission of this site's owner.
If Mitch would be prepared to do that is upto him.

I realize their is another tour out their that runs along the same lines, but I think clams being an institution, would attract plenty of support, and their is no end of courses to play.

From what Dave said regarding designers having sole rights to their own designs, unfortunatley, Jim designed a lot of courses, all of which are now unavailable, without his permission.


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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2015 at 10:50:51 PM | IP Logged

Forget about setting up clams again, I just read Jeffs announcement from 2012 about it being resurrected at CGX, and then all the whiney little so and so's complaining about it not being free, same thing happened last year, when CGX went down, same wingers, up in arms because they would have to pay makes me sick.
They did their best to attack Jim then and did so again back in 2012, I guess some people just hate parting with a few dollars of their precious money.

they can all get stuffed, go play your stupid free tour, if your that desperate to hang onto your cash.

It seems like Jim may have aquired the rights to it anyway.

After this I probably won't be welcome here again so I may as well make this my final post at CD not just this topic.

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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 12:40:57 PM | IP Logged

Wow, a tad bitter Bruce? 
 
 
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 3:25:06 PM | IP Logged

Not much sense at pointing fingers as we haven't had an official reason why the site went down. Yes it could have been for financial reasons but as I mentioned before if the site was in trouble
nothing was really made known about it. Perhaps if that was the case a post simply stating either the site raises funds or it will be gone by a certain time,might have gotten people's attention.
Again though we really do not know the reason. As I also pointed out perhaps Jim felt it was time to move on to something else which is his right but it would have been nice again to have some indication this was going to happen.

The bottom line,I have not seen any information indicating what the reason the plug was pulled so it could be a number of things or just one,in the end I guess it doesn't matter as what is done is done.Still it would have been nice to have been able to say our good byes on site if it was in fact even known it was coming to an end. Some of us had been members for many years and to all of a sudden have the site vanish without any warning is a little upsetting which I think is understandable. Nothing we can do about it now anyways and I honestly don't know if we will ever really know what happened, after this much time has passed and no official announcement made,I highly doubt we will ever get the real reason.  
 
 
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 5:43:57 PM | IP Logged

i have Jim on my skype and he has been logging in and out the past couple of days, but he wont respond to my questions. so theres that. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 6:01:44 PM | IP Logged

Well I guess by the sounds of that Jim is alive at least which is good to hear but still no further ahead to what exactly happend or why. Again it was his stie and if he got tired of it that is fine people do move on to other things as time goes by.

Still would have been nice to have had a heads up about it.  
 
 
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Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 7:14:19 PM | IP Logged

It does now seem Jim has called time on the CGX site and I am very sad to see it go! I miss my weekly dose of the most accurate courses available week in week out anywhere! There have been some fabulous designers and some great fun had at PGAX as it was and CGX as it became! I hope to upload some of my PGAX/CGX designs onto the official page when I have some time for those interested!  
 
 
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Posted: Monday, August 31, 2015 at 11:40:08 PM | IP Logged

Will you be continuing to design tour courses, but now for course downloads?? 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 7:20:21 AM | IP Logged

Hi Greg, I had started to build the Woburn Dukes Course for October so I will probably finish that and upload it here when ready. I thoroughly enjoyed building courses for the CGX Tour and although not as prolific nowadays I hope to continue building new courses.
 
 
 
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Posted: Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 7:49:48 AM | IP Logged

That is great news Pete, thanks for sharing. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 10:15:43 AM | IP Logged

Good to hear Pete, your courses are always a treat to play :) 
 
 
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Posted: Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 10:28:04 AM | IP Logged

Great News Pete. Nice to see that the quality designers will still be releasing their Courses. 
 
 
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Posted: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 6:01:47 AM | IP Logged

Why does everyone have to make nasty remarks when they read something that they do not like anywhere.

This is a serious subject and Personally I do not think it is a place for the silly childish remarks that are being posted. 
 
 
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Posted: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 11:37:55 AM | IP Logged

I agree with Peter, i deleted a few posts in this topic. 
 
 
 
 

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