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| Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at
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| How can new courses be created by players when EA Sports didnt include a Course Architect design program with the TW 06 game. As I suspected, EA wants to sell the buyer their own add on courses for profit. |
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at
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You suspected WRONG! The CA is under beta testing right now and just like last year it will be made available as a DOWNLOAD off of the EA web site. If you have followed the TW game at all over the past 4 years you would see that EA has not released one single extra course CD since Headgate took over the game in 2002. Extra courses have all come from user creations using a Course Architect.
Before you jump to conclusions you should look around a bit. It has been widely reported that a CA would be made available. It was one of the very first things that I mentioned here when the NDA was lifted for the beta testers. Just because it isnt released the second the game comes out does NOT mean that it will not come out. You are just going to have to be patient.
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at
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| I was one that was beta testing the game. I am not an architect, so I am not testing the CA, but I am still monitoring the beta boards in regards to the CA. I also know a couple of the other beta members that are testing it and have been keeping up with it with them. |
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at
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How does one become a beta tester????? PRAY TELL
Here in south africa we have to wait 1/12 of the year to get the damn title so how about beta testing it to make up the month im losing in online club play - Ive lost contact with all my club members who have moved on to 2006......IRRITATING! 
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at
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You can try contacting someone at EA. Im sorry I cant be more specific, but I dont have anyone in particular that you could try contacting. I got involved in the beta test program after the TW2002 year. There were so many problems with 2002 that they held a large 03 beta test to improve the game. Ive been part of the test group since then. They have slowly trimmed that beta team down over the past couple of years.
In fact, if you want to see the names of some of the testers, play against some of the amateur golfers in the game. We sign a release at the beginning of the testing that allows our names to be used in the game. My name should be in there, although I havent looked for it in this years version. I used to get ribbed all the time by friends of mine that had the game because they would say that they beat me in some competition in the game. |
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| Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at
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| Why cant the EA Sports designers put out the CA at the same time the game is released? Links was able to do this for years with their game sims? |
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| I would like to no that myself delvanis they had a year to create 2k6 so what seems to be the problem with the ca. We all complained about the wait last year now there making us wait again this is b.s tiger 99 was the no bs year |
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| I wish I could answer that, but I cant. It seems like it would make sense to do that. I know EA has pretty rigid yearly time schedules for game releases, which is something Im not sure Microsoft had since they released Links every 2 years. I think EA may be more concerned with getting the primary game out the door and then focusing on the CA later once they have met their deadline. I remember back during one of the beta test years that someone from EA mentioned that we as a community are only a very small percentage (maybe 5%) of the buying population of the TW series. They said that most buyers of the game will not even know sites like this exist and therefore will never play any course other than the stock courses. Therefore the CA doesnt get the attention that it should because it doesnt really sell the game like some of the core features of the game do. It is sad, but unfortunately I believe that is all about $$$, which is why the CA just doesnt take a top priority. |
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| Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at
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Youre right about EA. They concentrate on the games that sell more. Anyway, it will be worth the wait. The course designers who have given us their downloads in past games are to be thanked time and time again. They are truly great designers. The Augusta National was and is a classic. As well as the Lakeside Country club and Pine Valley 05. I am grateful to these contributers. Without these wonderful contributers we Tiger Woods PC gamers would certainly not have very many courses to choose from.
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| Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2005 at
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| "I would like to no that myself delvanis they had a year to create 2k6 so what seems to be the problem with the ca. We all complained about the wait last year now there making us wait again this is b.s tiger 99 was the no bs year" |
TW99 did not have a CA,the CA did not come untill 2000 but it worked with 99,also 99 had the nightmare online server which went down just before Christmas and stayed down for about six weeks.
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| Posted: Saturday, October 1, 2005 at
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They said that most buyers of the game will not even know sites like this exist and therefore will never play any course other than the stock courses." |
I SUPPOSE THEY KNOW THE TW SALES FIGURES TO ONLINE PLAYER RATIO.....
But I cant believe that theyre completely unaware of the online sections existance....!!
If you bought TW, u talk to people about TW, u must have seen the sixth feature on the back cover!!
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THE CA IS THE LIFE OF TW......... 
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| Posted: Sunday, October 2, 2005 at
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| Your right about that bud the ca is the life of tw without it tigerwoods would be history on pc with out it. This is why they need to get on the ball and make this a no1 priority with each version. |
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| Posted: Monday, October 10, 2005 at
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Bro, Im sorry to say this, but the CA and LC only account for 2% of the complete player pie. Even worse is 80% of all complaints come from the 2% of the crowd!! U may not want to believe this but save youself any ammount of time u want to spend on voicing a personal belief that u think its different, its not!! If EA/HGS pulled the plug on the CA completely it wouldnt affect them 1 bit. It would us designers but please, understand that we are lucky its still here. This isnt a kiss azz attempt to EA in anyway!! I am only tyring to let people know the actual place the CA stands on EA/HGS priority list.
Now this isnt to say they dont care about how it turns out. I am a tester for the CA and I assure you, its not just as easy as changing a few things from yr to yr and releasing like people assume. Believe it or not they do attempt to take user requests and apply them for the new release. This is what happens when its done. For every action, theres an equal and opposite reaction. Most experienced coders/programmers will tell u that u cant just make 1 change w/o it changing other things as well. Thats just the way it works most times.
To rewrite a new program each yr is 1. Not in the budgeted time frame, and mostly 2nd is simply not in the budget. The entire make up of this PC version is not about anything more than making $$ for EA. Thats a hard fact but the truth. This isnt made outta a love for PC golfers world wide and for the love of the game. Its made and kept in production, only, as long as it remains a money maker for EA. from what I have heard, the PC game does just enough to get by each yr. The console version dominates sales and therefore remains on top of EA spending lists.
None, to very slim profits, mean no $$ for the extras. Esp ones that mean so little in value to the overall $$ figure. Im sorry for the economics lesson but if people can actually grasp this it will help in understanding, and maybe even respecting a tiny bit more, why we are, still, where we are.
As for the 06 CA and LC all I can say is dont expect many major changes. There are a few new things but overall the hold up is in the addition of the new and completely diff and improved EA stock textures and trees. Please dont mistake little change for less time consuming change. The last word I had from EA, or any other tester, was the CA shoulda been out last week, but a little, yet potentially large problem, popped up and is being worked out now, Im sure. Sadly, Ea/HGS doesnt feel it necessary to give us ETAs of fix time after they recieve the bug reports, lol, so after all this reading u still have no answer, but hopefully a new and more positive and respectful outlook on the situation!! lets see if im able to actually add an image of a tester custom with the new lighting for the LC textures. The pics dont do it true justice but still are killer!!
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| Posted: Monday, October 10, 2005 at
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thanks for the inside info!! 
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