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Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 11:45:41 AM | IP Logged

I chose my character golfer to be a Pro, rather than just an Amatuer, because you have more skills all around and can buy better equipment. I tried the amatuer mode and I barely got anything as a reward and I would have to play a 1,000 games to get to the potential I want. So all my skills are at 75% How can I increase my skills to 100%.All I get now when I win is trophy balls. Big deal. That doesnt help me increase my skill attributes.So what am I to do? 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 11:57:42 AM | IP Logged

You cant improve attributes for a Pro golfer. That is the whole point behind the choice. By choosing a Pro character you have set skills. This type of player should be selected in order to play regular rounds through the Custom mode. This type of golfer is for the player that just wants to play rounds or play in custom seasons.

If you create an Amateur character, you are playing a different type of career-mode TW game. You are trying to develop your character over time through playing in tournaments, training, etc. You can improve skills with an Amateur character, but not with a Pro character.

You may want to look in the game manual. I am not sure if it explains more (since I never read the manual), but this is the same way the characters were set up in TW2005. 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 12:17:54 PM | IP Logged

That sucks! Who has the time to play 2,000 or more games to build up your amatuer attributes to a full Pro level? I guess Ill just have to wait for more add on courses.What a bummer. 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 12:26:58 PM | IP Logged

You just dont get it. Last year, EA was going to make a HUGE change in the game. The first beta builds we got only included the Amateur option and it was going to force people to play through a career mode that they didnt want to go through in order to play. As a compromise, EA reimplemented the standard golfer (Pro golfer) option. This allowed the player that just wanted to play individual rounds, IP-IP rounds or rounds online to immediately start playing. The reason the attributes are locked is so everyone is playing with the same attributes. This is critical if playing online. You dont want one player to have all of these boosted attributes over another player just because they have gone through the career mode.

Sorry that you cant build up your character automatically to have 100% on every attribute. That is just how the Pro character is set up. Every person out there that buys TW06 and sets up a Pro golfer will have the exact same attributes.

It seems like from your other posts you are just not happy with the game. If that is the case, then just dont play it. The game is a solid game and there are specific reasons behind why things are in the game. When you set up your character you have 2 options, either play a career mode with an Amateur player and build his character up or you play as a Pro player with locked attributes and you play the course rather than trying to play in an career mode. Those are the 2 options you have, period.
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 12:42:36 PM | IP Logged

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Oh I get it Jarvis. If I wouldnt have forked out $52.00 for the game I wouldnt be bitching. But when a customer lays down the money he or she should be able to get full attributes in Pro level period. Its called fracking the customer. You forget EA sells over 40 MILLION golf sims a year. So does EA care? No way Jarvis.

Secondly, most people go to work for a living and hardly have time to play over 2,000 games to get your amatuer player up to FULL skill attributes on every club. Most people bust their buns daily over eight hours a day working. Thats reality Jarvis. 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 12:50:12 PM | IP Logged

It sounds like you had no idea what you were getting when you bought the game. This game hasnt made significant changes in many years and this is the way this game is, plain and simple. You can be pissed off because you plopped down money without knowing what you were getting, but that is your problem, not EAs. Nowhere on EAs site, on this site, on TWC or any other TW site does it say that you can set the attributes of a Pro character. That is an assumption that YOU made, not a reality that is in the game. It is the same as the assumption that you made in another post about there not being a CA when there will be one.

Please dont even try to give me that stuff jabout I work my fingers to the bone and I should get exactly what I want out of a game stuff. You know, I work all day too just like most people that visit this site. On top of that I bust my hump helping to run this web site. I do it because I enjoy playing the game. If the game is causing you that many problems and that much pain, take the thing back and get your money back or sell it. It is supposed to be fun and just because you cant do one specific thing in the game should be no reason to cause this much grief.

As I said before, there is a reason that the attributes arent maxed out. EA set the bar at 75% for each and every person out there that plays. It makes an even playing field for everyone. I just dont get what the big deal is that it isnt at 100%. The attributes for a Pro player do not really affect gameplay when you are playing other people so I am just not understanding where the anger toward EA is coming from. It is a minor deal and it is not one they are going to change.
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 2:58:33 PM | IP Logged

Some people just dont get it.......when I buy a game, i dont want everything unlocked!!! What would be the point?
Online mode is not all the game is about...I quite enjoy playing through amateur levels to become proficient in the game...
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 4:32:33 PM | IP Logged

Jarvis

Let me ask you something, since you have personally attacked me on this forum and you defend the wealthy programmers at EA Sports. If you went out and purchased a new car from a dealer and found out it only could steer 75% as well as other vehicles on the road, how would you feel? Wouldnt you want to be able to drive your vehicle and have it run 100%?

You say, well if I dont like it take the game back? Well, what about EA sports responsibility in making a fully playable game to begin with? Dont they have some dues to put out a game that is fully functional to begin with? Links golf Sims have developed games before you were a teenager and they ALWAYS had a functional game. If anyone could have fixed the the game to not be fully functional, Bill Gates sure could have and gotten away with it. But he chose to sell a fully functional product. That is the point.

Whether a product costs the customer $39.00 or $27,000 dollars, the paying customer should be able to have a FULLY functional product to begin with. I would ask in the future that you would not use this forum to verbally attack me and understand more about customer satisfaction when having bought any product. I understand the time you have put into your website and how grateful you are to EA Sports. But dont forget the bottom line. It is the little guy out there in this world who supports you and EA Sports as well. Without your forum members and EA game buyers, you guys would have to give up the day job. 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 6:38:50 PM | IP Logged

delvanis,

First off, how about calling me by my first name which is clearly listed in the signature of every post I make.

I have not attacked you, at least that was not my intent. If you took it that way, I apologize. I want people that come here to the site to enjoy their visits and if I have offended I certainly am sorry.

What I have tried to do is understand why you are so pissed off about a game. Your analogy does not hold up in this case at all. Buying this game is no where near comparable to purchasing a car. With a car you have certain expectations and if those arent met then I would be upset. However, with this game the expectations we are talking about are YOUR expectations, not what EA designed the game to be. You see, you have some idea that you should be able to do something in the game that the designers never intended. You are pissed off about something that has no bearing on the gameplay at all. Nowhere in the manual or on the box is having a 100% attribute total for a Pro player mentioned or expected. Therefore the expectation is YOUR expectation, YOUR thought of what the game should provide.

You say the game is not fully playable and I tell you it is 100% fully playable. If you create a Pro player, are you not able to go online and play others at the exact same level that they are at? Are you not able to play offline on courses exactly the same as other players at the same level? That makes the game 100% playable and is playing the way the company designed the game. Plain and simple. They do not OWE us, the players, anything like you are asking. We pay for a game that is playable, that is enjoyable and a game that plays in a way that is fair and is designed to be played the way they coded it. Just because it doesnt match up to your expectations does not mean that EA owes us a thing. I do not see anyone else complaining about this issue and no one else sees a problem with the PRO attributes being locked across the board at 75%, thus making a level playing field for offline tournaments and online play.

You can argue all you want that because they are a rich company that they owe us something, but I just dont see that they do. If there are bugs in the game, yes, they would owe us a fix then. But this is not a bug. It plays the way it was designed and that is with attributes for Pro players locked at 75%.
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 12:48:32 PM | IP Logged

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What if I dont want to play all the time online? What if I want to play a custom game and choose any of the courses to play? Guess what. The golf character I created is only an Amatuer who can barely get the ball to a 30% distance with his clubs. Oh sure, you can create a Pro, but then you cant play the Rivals matches using a Pro created golfer. So you are
Of course everyone who goes Online is placed on a Pro level and thats fine, if you want to play online all the time. But not all of us do.

Why couldnt EA Sports designers at least have given the Amatuer golfer
I have played both the 04 and 05 games. They gave you a much larger reward of attribute points after winning a match or challenge. TW 06
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 2:01:30 PM | IP Logged

I see that you got your answer to the engine.dll problem (placing the Career Editor program in the TW bin folder).

As for the other issues, one thing you can do is create another golfer as a Pro so you have both an Amatuer and one as a Pro. The Pro would be used for playing custom rounds offline while the Amatuer would be for going through career mode. One other piece of info I can give...Look over at the TWC web site. Nike23 has put together some unlocked player files that may help give you more of what you are looking for. I havent tried any of them (yet) so I cant tell you for sure they will work. But they are worth a look:

 
 
 
 
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 2:42:19 PM | IP Logged

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That doesnt work for me. If I create a new golfer at Pro level then it automatically deletes the Amatuer player I already created previous to that. At least thats the way it looks when I am returned to the main startup screen. I see my new created golfer and not the old Amatuer one, that I saw on the main screen. I am open to advice. How can you create an Amatuer golfer to play Rivals and a Pro golfer to play the Custom games? 
 
 
 
 
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Thanks. I will check out http://www.tigerwoodscommunity.net/index.php?dlcategory=45 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 3:58:37 PM | IP Logged

If you create a new character with a different name it does not delete your other character. It will indeed show you the new character you created when you go to the main screen. However you can easily change the profile to your other character by clicking on Change Profile where it shows your profiles stats. It will bring up a list of all of the characters you can choose from. You can create as many characters as you want to. 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 4:04:47 PM | IP Logged

Thanks Jarvis. 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 5:39:15 PM | IP Logged

If Im not mistaken you can only play Pro players online, thus they are locked at the same level. That was the primary reason the Pro level was created. 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 6:12:33 PM | IP Logged

I play in 05 with my ameteur created player no problem,
I have a solution though to speed up the amateur progression - Its called Gameshock - u can edit your cash and by so doing build your attributes pronto!!!!!!!!

I got fed up of corrupt installations so looked for a quick fix to speed it up!

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NO COPIES IN SOUTH AFRICA ALMOST 1 MONTH AFTER RELEASE!!!
DO WE HERE IN AFRICA GET 1/12TH OFF THE GAME????????????
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 6:22:54 PM | IP Logged

I may be incorrect then. I am not 100% sure since my primary playing mode is offline. I dont think I have played a round on EASO since either late TW2004 or the beta of 2005, so I am certainly not the expert on online play. 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 6:41:11 PM | IP Logged

OUR OFFLINE EXPERT President Jarvis lol-
Jeff you should try out gameshock...I always played offline purely because I did not have a connection and with system problems I got tired of the mandatory 30 hours more or less career gametime.......to get to where you were!!!!!

I have HEARD however, that in online mode its all a level playing field and regardless of type of player, etc all is equal!!

Who knows, does EA release a technical spec sheet of the differences in ONLINE and OFFLINE MODES? 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 9:26:09 PM | IP Logged

jeff obiously we have a newbie here who just wants all the trphys before he even plays the game lol to be a great golfer you gotta work for it and by the way i love the way ea changed up the pro circut it rocks !!!

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