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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 at 8:50:17 AM | IP Logged

I finished a new tutorial last night as I laid out the Fontana Golf Club plot.

Unfortunately, it has been so long that I forget how to upload a tutorial. So here it is. Jeff, could you please move it to its proper location?

Thanks. Roger

 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 at 9:20:41 AM | IP Logged


Thanks Homeboy
I will look over this for sure, and I'm still having trouble getting TA down. I know it's me that is messing it all up because of not knowing how to use Paint or other programs very well still. I hope to get it one day soon, so I can try real courses too like y'all do. Personally I think having to follow a real course design is much more challenging then having free will to go anywhere you want to in CA, but I'm still very green, so I don't know for sure. Think it would be, and I'm looking forward to this challenge no matter what, but doing it justice at the same time will be real tough like you accomplished designers do all the time. Nothing against fantasy course(some real like), and they aren't easy to make either, but having to following a real course & come up with the CA techniques to make certain things(example: bunkers) has gotta be hard, finding trees that work, right color textures, structures, and all the other things a real course might have or play like seems like it would take so much research & work to pull it off.......

Thanks again for your time bringing this tutorial to designers wanting to do real courses with TA too.

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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 at 9:26:31 AM | IP Logged

Very nicely done Roger, thanks

 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 at 9:49:35 AM | IP Logged

Yes!!!! Roger, awesome stuff there! 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 at 11:43:11 AM | IP Logged

The tutorial has been added to the Utilities area under a new Tutorials section that I have created.

http://www.coursedownloads.com/extras/details.asp?id=570 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 at 11:55:35 AM | IP Logged

Thanks Jeff, appreciate it. Hope folks find the tut useful. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Since there is little other data available then this method will have to do ......... but ........ there is a tweak that I think is necessary. The main focus should be on correctly sizing and placing the course image on the DEM mesh. There is not (I repeat, not) an infinite number mesh points available so on a 90m grid the closest point could be 45m from where you think it is. I would modify the tutorial this way:

1) The initial coordinates you choose from Google are "notional". Follow the steps outlined by Homeboy and trim the DEM but don't worry about the image yet.

2) Open the 3DEM header file (the .hdr one) and note the "left_map_x =" through the "upper_map_y =" values. These are the Northing and Easting values expressed as meters (the Universal Transverse Mercator)

3) In Google set the options for "Show Lat/Long" to Universal Transverse Mercator and then the display at the bottom of the Google window will be in meters. Using the Placemark technique - drag the location based on the numbers at the bottom of the screen not the Key-in values. Match the locations from step 2) and it's as good as you are going to get. I don't believe Google's data is too precise but this should help refine the size and placement of the image.

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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 at 3:26:29 PM | IP Logged

Good stuff to know ... thanks Chet. Folks, in case you didn't know, Chet wrote the TA program, so we owe him a lot of thanks for helping designers do all the great real courses out there. 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 at 3:40:39 PM | IP Logged

Let me say THANK YOU Chet, I have recently made my first course and am almost done with my 2nd real course. The TA is amazing!!! Thank you so much!!
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 at 9:22:52 PM | IP Logged


Thanks a lot Chet ...... :)
Me not knowing PC stuff very well hasn't allowed me to use you program completely yet, but I do think it's pretty amazing what is does, many cool real courses I have enjoy have been made from the help this program provides.

Thanks for you time making this program(TA) so many can enjoy some of the best courses in the world or someones cool local club from within our homes...........
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 at 11:57:22 PM | IP Logged

Thanks Chet. 
 
 
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Posted: Friday, August 7, 2009 at 10:00:53 AM | IP Logged

Is there a way of doing this using Bing maps instead of Google? The reason I ask is that Carnoustie is very unclear on Google Earth.

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Posted: Friday, August 7, 2009 at 11:09:38 AM | IP Logged

No, but you can overlay the Bing image on to the Google Earth image. I remember doing that when I did the Edgewood Tahoe because the Google Earth imagery didn't show the new renovations to the course.

Here is how you do an overlay:

http://earth.google.com/userguide/v4/ug_imageoverlays.html 
 
 
 
 

 
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Posted: Friday, August 7, 2009 at 11:14:17 AM | IP Logged

Great, Thanks Roger 
 
 
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