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| Posted: Saturday, June 27, 2009 at
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| I am about to close out the hole construction on my current project, and I am wondring if anyone would care to share some thoughts on the significance of the 18th hole in course design. I would like for it to be dramatic, maybe a little tricky, exciting, but not unnecessarily or artificially difficult. I did the island green thing on Caveland Valley, so I don't want to repeat that theme. |
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| Posted: Saturday, June 27, 2009 at
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One thing to think about IMO, is to have it be a par 5, so that it gives people a chance to catch up if they need it.
I read this somewhere and have done this on most of my courses, but then again, you could just say To Bad and make it a par 4. Just one thing to think about.
That's as creative as I am these days, lol.
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| Posted: Saturday, June 27, 2009 at
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Few different holes come to mind:
1. Pebble Beach- Long, dogleg left par 5 where you could get a good score to come back with enough trouble to really screw up your round if you hit a bad one.
2. TPC Sawgrass- Long, dogleg left par 4, probably the toughest hole on a very difficult course. Gives you a chance if you're willing to be aggressive. Tough green.
3. Riviera- Long, dogleg right par 4 with a blind tee shot and a long approach. No bunkers but a lot of slope.
4. Olympic Club- A short 350 yard par 4. The trouble is on the second shot and even more, the green. After the 1998 US Open, the green was redone to play more fair. Payne Steward missed a short putt by 30 feet on that green at one point.
5. Congressional- The only championship course I can think of that ends with a par 3. An average length par 3 over water with a beautiful view of the clubhouse. At one US Open, the course was rerouted so the championship didn't end on this hole, but since they have realized that a par 3 isn't necessarily a bad way to end a round.
The one thing these holes all have in common is that they are solid holes, but holes where if you play aggressive a good score could be made. All have trouble somewhere. All are very scenic and legendary golf holes.
On my fictional courses, I usually end with a long par 4 that is one of the higher handicap holes (for 08: Bolinwood-Old, Bolinwood-Golden, Pineapple Shores, Centennial View although it's slightly shorter) On Royal St. James I used a different philosophy, a long par 5 where par is an excellent score. There are several ways to ruin a round on that hole and was not meant to give anyone a chance :) |
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| Posted: Saturday, June 27, 2009 at
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| The 18th at Bayhill is a perfect finishing hole |
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| Posted: Saturday, June 27, 2009 at
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Yes
All good answers above, and when I'm playing a course, I like the finishing hole to have a chance for birdie or even eagle if I hit good shots, but the hole has to be able to really bite someone if they fall to the pressure with miss hits. Makes for get finish this does, and making a hole like this is going to be very challenging for me.
This designing is so cool, and I love the thoughts that go into it.
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| Posted: Saturday, June 27, 2009 at
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| edited by: nuttywoody on
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| Bobby - thanks for the thoughtful answer, it has me thinking. Im thinking of a hole where the tee and second shots would present a challenge/temptation/risk that, if made well, could result in an eagle, perhaps on a somewhat forgiving green. And really thanks to all for the input. |
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| Posted: Saturday, July 11, 2009 at
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Think the 18th hole at True North, its a really good hole either way you play it.
the sloping is amzing
www.truenorthgolf.com |
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