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| Posted: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 at
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I have my course set up on 3dem and have managed to draw in the shapes for hole 1, so far so good. When I do hole 2, how do I import the shapes for that onto the existing course or do i draw all 18 holes and then import?
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| Posted: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 at
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| I draw all of my shapes at once. Then I queue up the shapes for export by selecting a column of shapes at a time (by holding the CTRL key). Take a look at my TA tutorial, if you haven't already. |
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| Posted: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 at
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I'm doing it with your tutorial open. I just wondered if I could export hole by hole, but it doesnt matter, was just to break things up a little. I've kinda got the mouse under control now, so I've got 4 holes done.
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| Posted: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 at
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| You can certainly do it hole by hole if you want -- especially if you need instant gratification. :) Just need to continue re-naming the tca file and make sure that you don't have any floating shapes or you'll get an error. |
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| Posted: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 at
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No wonder your the master, all 18 holes at one sitting, my gawd man!!! Lol
I'm lucky if I get 1 hole. But I do have 1 course layed out and 8 holes done on another.
Hope I can just finish one of em. This program is the bomb. |
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| Posted: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 at
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| I do it hole by hole also, save the file as coursename1.tcl, coursename2.tcl, etc... |
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| Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at
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| Beverly coming along nicely, 9 holes laid out. Now for the hard bit, how do you recreate an eight lane freeway that runs through the middle of the course? |
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| Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at
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I would say, hire a bunch of Operators and Laborers, preferably from my Local and we will fix you up nice.!!
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| Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at
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I was looking at the TA tutorial, and it's amazing what that program can do, but it looks like it might be difficult for me to grasp.
I understand it helps with getting the shapes of the holes, but does it also figure the elevation work too?
If yes, that is just a amazing......
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| Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at
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| It does do the elevations too, I think that is probably the main advantage. It's nice to be able to draw round the shapes though. |
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| Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at
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If you follow Roger's tutorial, it is actually very simple to use.
It will give you most of the elevations, but you'll still have to do some terrain work to flatten tees, do bunkers, and work on greens... plus some fairway work. |
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| Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at
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All 18 holes laid out, and all 18 turn out to be 10-20 yards short.
IE Scorecard 356 Google 356 Me 346
or Scorecard 582 Google 580 Me 562
If I put tees right to back of box I can squeeze another 2-3 yards in but not enough. Any ideas what I could have done wrong?
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| Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 at
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I would like to know the answer to that myself.
My inexperienced opinion though, would be to see if you can move the tee boxes back? |
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| Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 at
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I think that will have to be done. Can't see any other options. Hope it wont affect elevations too much.
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| Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 at
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I find this issue curious and have a few thoughts. Could it be that the course has been altered and distances have changed since the terrain data was captured? Perhaps the course managers or marketers had a target length, and have allowed themselves a "margin of error" in measurements?* Did they measure as the crow flies, or along the terrain? What, if any, strict standard is there for measuring a course?
At any rate, I would consider carefully whether you want to go to all the trouble of pushing tee boxes and terrain around -- for what appears to be a distance discrepancy of less than 3%. That's a pretty reasonable tolerance over a distance of several thousand yards. I wonder if you couldn't squeeze a few more yards in just by moving the shot path points around a bit?
*I used to work at a place (automobile assembly) where it was a standard joke, but not always purely a joke. Some higher-up would ask for a number. As a matter of courtesy, cooperative spirit, and good humor, the standard reply would be "what number would you like?" There are many situations where a number is required, but the method for obtaining that number is obfuscated as a matter of course. (Tip: Don't try this if you work for NASA.) |
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| Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 at
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| "I find this issue curious and have a few thoughts. Could it be that the course has been altered and distances have changed since the terrain data was captured? Perhaps the course managers or marketers had a target length, and have allowed themselves a "margin of error" in measurements?* Did they measure as the crow flies, or along the terrain? What, if any, strict standard is there for measuring a course?" |
I don't think it has been changed, as the course yardage is pretty much spot on to Google Earth's measurement, which of course is where I got my data from so for some reason it seems to have shrunk in the wash.
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At any rate, I would consider carefully whether you want to go to all the trouble of pushing tee boxes and terrain around -- for what appears to be a distance discrepancy of less than 3%. That's a pretty reasonable tolerance over a distance of several thousand yards. I wonder if you couldn't squeeze a few more yards in just by moving the shot path points around a bit?
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Good thinking.
That's what I'll do, push the tees as far back on the tee boxes as i can and fiddle the yardages with shot paths.
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| Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 at
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Here is something too. I have no problem with this, I am working with it, but wanted to add this in.
I did all my coordinates with google earth, and noticed that the first set of tee boxes looked rectangle shaped, while viewing the course.
After importing and exporting, it shows up on my plot with circular tee boxes on the first set of tee's.
Now, when I view my course in Virtual earth, they have the have the circular tee boxes also.
I went with the circular ones, because I figured if that's what got imported and exported with google earth, then it must be right. Don't know why google earth would show rectangular but when I actually exported to the plot they are circular.
I figure they must be right, and maybe Virtual earth is more up to date?
Anyway, I am moving right along, working on the 3rd hole, using Virtual earth, but wanted to share this with us newbies to the TA.
Just remember, were not building piano's here. lol |
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| Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 at
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| I'd assume the course changed that over time. Have you tried the History on Google Earth; you may find some answers there. |
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| Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 at
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If you draw a rectangle in CA with a point at each corner it will turn out as an oblong.
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| Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 at
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| Thats where the path tool comes in handy. |
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