|
|
|
 Topic Locked
|
|
| |
|
ShadowDW |
 General Member |
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 3/21/2007 |
|
B-Day: 4/21/1975 (50) |
|
Posts: 6 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at
4:11:35 PM |
IP Logged |
|
| edited by: ShadowDW on
Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at
4:17:00 PM
An Apology |
| |
After 3.5 years at PGAX/CGX, it has come to an end for me. The petty politics and socialist-like actions resulting in childish behaviour has irritated me for the last time. I am just appalled by the continual false accusations and idle threats to both me, and my father and I am far too old, my father moreso, to be treated like I am a 6 year old child. I think we deserve a little more respect than what we have been shown. Frankly, I cannot see how I lasted that long with all that has happened but, I was really trying to give it chance after chance, hoping for a change in attitude, but to no avail. They had something great and decided to flush it down the toilet instead. It is hard to think that 70 some people cannot see the arrogant, impractical and Stalin-like attitude of a certain individual there. However, I suppose some people prefer that kind of governing, prefering to be told what, where, when, how and why they should do things. Maybe if they actually had somewhere else they could go, somewhere else they could get the same thing, but without all the political propaganda and childish behaviour.
Well, that is what I am looking to do, but I will need the help if anyone knows anyone, or is willing to help me. I would like to create a place where there are multiple ways to get our golfing fix. Whether it be scratch or handicapped, advanced or expert, 3 click or True Swing, Alt Shot or Bloodsome, hell ... lets even consider Davys old PunchnPutt. Or how about, any and all combinations of the possible choices out there?? I know, I know, everyone is starting to think this dude has absolutely lost his helmet, but give me a chance here people.
Yes, it might be a little time consuming, and yes it will involve a lot of effort, but Im willing to give it a shot. Besides, much of it can eventually be automated if the effort is put in and in the end, the only thing would be to have the people in place, selecting courses and settings. But what about |insert various round recording method here|? Well, that would be part of the process involved, so this is also an invitation to anyone that can do something like this as well. Will there be leaderboards for all these things? Oh yes, and with a little know-how, perfectly automated. And before anyone asks about fairness, equality, yada, yada, yada, I would love to answer that but I think I would need another separate post to give it proper explanation lol. It might be best if you just PMd me or emailed me (;see below) and I would be happy to give my explanation there.
I have many ideas about all of things in my head and I would love to get together with some intelligent and mature people to possibly put something together in the pursuit of golfing happiness. If anyone is interested in helping me to achieve this goal, using the Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 version of course, please contact me here or, email me at sdarkwalker@cfl.rr.com.
I feel that this is something that should be a part of our fine golfing community anyways, and should be a place where everyone can come and go in absolute freedom. If anyone out there shares a passion for our golfing past time, and is interested in helping to create something potentially special for all of us here, please contact me and lets get it going!
Edit: Please forgive the slight harshness of the opening paragraph. I felt it necessary to let out my feelings in a place where hopefully, it wont be edited and/or deleted. I also feel people should know about the way others are treated over there, and how things are being viewed. I am positive I am not the only one who feels this way however, I do not believe most know about and also, they should be somehow notified. Thank you in your forgiveness. |
| |
| |
|
ShadowDW Signature |
|
| May the darkness guide you ... |
|
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
mikekal100 |
|
General Member |
|
|
Canada |
| |
| Joined: 7/5/2005 |
|
B-Day: 8/26/1961 (64) |
|
Posts: 24 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at
5:00:22 PM |
IP Logged |
|
| Well said Mike i think your comments are shared by many actually i know for a fact it is.Karma is a funny thing and eventually you get bit in the butt by it and as time goes by more and more people will get tired of being treated with disrespect and getting treated like a 5 year old. |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
MrMagoo2k9 |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 12/2/2008 |
|
Posts: 3 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at
5:36:30 PM |
IP Logged |
|
I aggree and support what you have to say about how people are treated, I had been a member at PGAX/CGX for more than 4yrs but finally got tired of getting insulted and bullied. The worst part of it all is I was dumb enough to pay for that abuse. There are other tours and places to play TW08 that are more fun and "FREE", check um out, on the left side of the home page.
MrMagoo2k9 |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
JP Denny 09 |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 8/31/2009 |
|
Posts: 7 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at
7:34:29 PM |
IP Logged |
|
there are many golf clubs out there for all to really enjoy and or have fun in but what it really comes down to is how the members are treated, I am a Admin of a site that offeres a great structure of events every week or as posted on the site of the scheduled events. I have seen many clubs fold due to the ongoing accusations of its ADMINS to its members of how to improve or solve current issues(personal or otherwise) of the way the site is being run. Many sites are very selective of who can join or not join, or make it very hard for those who do not play at their level of distinction (EXPERT is prefered).Many do not have the ability or the means to play at levels they are not comfortable with or have a personal handicap in real life to prevent them from doing so, and when clubs have a good or great thing going they decide to change the format or structure of it and destroy the original concept or idea of why it was formed to begin with. The impractical attitude of certain individuals who run clubs like that like to prefer to tell members, how, where, when, and why they should do things for their tour or game play.
JP Denny a fellow golfer who enjoys the game for what it is, JUST A GAME not a way of life! |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
Bobby Bolin |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 7/28/2003 |
|
B-Day: 5/5/1988 (37) |
|
Posts: 1,427 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at
10:07:11 PM |
IP Logged |
|
| While I don't want to take sides on the issue at hand, you made me remember the golden era of PC golf. Do you guys remember the times when there were several terrific websites for Tiger Woods; CS, Notapro's and Tiger Woods Community, Tigerwishlist, etc.? Take the entire community and all the tours from then with all the courses/tools/new designers from now and things would be absolutely awesome. Really miss those days and thanks for the nostalgia. |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
mikekal100 |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
Canada |
| |
| Joined: 7/5/2005 |
|
B-Day: 8/26/1961 (64) |
|
Posts: 24 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at
11:30:19 PM |
IP Logged |
|
I feel alot of people who run these numerous golf sites miss the point of this game.You can play at any number of these sites but the best part of this game is the social part of it and the many friends from all over the world you can connect with.Playing tournaments at these sites means nothing unless you have friends that you can play along with and shoot the BS with as you play.I know for myself without our WCGR Teamspeak channel playing this game would not interest me at all whats the fun of playing a round of golf alone.I have been talking with alot of people who have recently left CGAX and one of the most common comments i hear is there was no sense of community there and for example if you look at their Teamspeak channel is there ever more than a couple of people on it?On our Teamspeak channel for our tour there is anywhere from 5 to 15 guys on it most days 7 days a week and we are only a small site but the word is out that its a friendly inviting place to come play a tournament round or just a alt shot-bloodsome-stroke etc. game.
Also i would add one other thing i have noticed over the last 7 years since i started playing this game is you seem to find the same cast of characters who are involved in some capacity in alot of the golf sites over the years.I will not mention names but we all know who these guys are and it seems to be a real clicky group of(and i will be polite here)questionable character who seem to think that they are above it all.Its not rocket science this is a game thats meant to be fun and to give you a break from all of our everyday problems.So remember unless you have a social aspect of this game and treat your friends with respect you really just have another game in a long list of computer games. |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
Outlaw69 |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 6/4/2012 |
|
Posts: 3 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 at
8:01:01 AM |
IP Logged |
|
I've got to agree with you in every way Shadow, as I have witnessed this with my own eyes and ears when I was a member ober there. The main question my many members of that site is why is everyone leaving, The answer to that question is very simple, and I fo hope you people who are still members over there read this and comprehend what is being said.
The site owner owner/leader/dictator at CGAX is using the members to not only PAY a subscription fee to play on his site, on his courses, and on his terms, but wants donations as well. WAKE UP, hes using you people. He is a very insecure power hungry indiviual who is literally destorying the Cyber golf and all the enjoyment it can offer.
Members I know that quit at CGAX were simply tired of being treated like a child on a supposely adult site. What was said in a previous post is true, TW08 is only a game and is designed only to enjoy playing itwith your friends or solo if you wish. But remember, its only a game, not a becessary task to substain life. Play it amd have fun, chill out and relax. That by the way can not be done at CGAX. You are always under the watchful eye od CGAX staff mot only when on the CGAX site, but off it as well. Your conversations are monitored, any wrong doings and shoutb0ox closed done or posts removed. Kind od childish dn't you think.
Shadow is right on, and yes I think people will reach out and support a reputable site where people can play golf on line with their friend, enjoy themselves, without having to worry about the watchful eye of the warden. So I say this, I don't sites like CGAX in my life to destory something I enjoy very much, and thats playing cyber golf online with my friends, and just chilling out.
Sorry, rambled on a bit, but CGAX members beware, his power is in your hands
Outlaw |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
marklongley8 |
|
General Member |
|
|
United Kingdom |
| |
| Joined: 4/19/2005 |
|
Posts: 4 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 at
4:49:33 PM |
IP Logged |
|
| edited by: marklongley8 on
Thursday, June 14, 2012 at
5:46:00 PM
|
| |
Hooray at last someone has spoken out in the community we call tiger woods i have just returned to tiger woods after an absence on 3 years and it seems somethings never change i played at the old PGAX then free of charge and when asked to test courses and reporting back on them your comments were dismissed as u cant have a say
Im the website owner at (;WCGR)worldclassgolfrevived an EXPERT ONLY tour played scratch and what were building is a community where you can play all the different aspects of the game t/swing /3click in an inviroment where we bring the fun and humor back to the game yes we have a weekly tour but we also play alot of mixed games and jest in the arena of our teamspeak channel any one needs any details its available here in the community links but most of all we respect everyone whom comes to play veteran expert players and those whom are just starting out everyone is treated the same as ADULTS and everyone has a freedom of speech constructive or critism no one is repremanded everything is disgussed as a tour group dont forget thou guys in all tours we need ADMINS whom work for free to benefit playing members so SHADOW ur allways welcome to check us out mate ......
be all and end all this is a game for you to have fun and enjoy try it someday ..Mark@WCGR |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
Divit1958 |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
Canada |
| |
| Joined: 12/22/2005 |
|
B-Day: 11/23/1958 (66) |
|
Posts: 10 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 at
5:36:36 PM |
IP Logged |
|
Your post is so true shadow, I left there 1-2 years ago..they my say different but my membership ran out as well as Mikekal's an we told each other were not renewing an we never did an was so glad I didn't, Just for fun I tryed rejoining about 12 weeks a go an got a reply within a web page that said GO F*** YOURSELF viva song.
Now is that coming from a respected site that said to me I had a fowel mouth in the shout box because there were children playing here, I think not, Now for the staff there, I will not mention any names but there were 2 addmans that thought that they were the police an the job went right to there heads.
Thats my Rants for this desscuions GL to all the members there.
Randall |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
Outlaw69 |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 6/4/2012 |
|
Posts: 3 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Friday, June 15, 2012 at
12:09:56 PM |
IP Logged |
|
Well Randy, at least the real personality of CGAX has been exposed, current members or those checking them have some info at least as to how their management really treats members.
Outlaw |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
axe360 |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 3/2/2005 |
|
B-Day: 3/26/1960 (65) |
|
Posts: 1,688 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Friday, June 15, 2012 at
8:04:50 PM |
IP Logged |
|
| edited by: axe360 on
Friday, June 15, 2012 at
8:28:00 PM
|
| |
| Why this whole entire thread is still up, is beyond me.. When did this site become one that people could bash other sites? I have only been treated with the utmost respect and kindness from CGX. |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
JSJarvis |
 Site Admin |
|
|
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 1/8/2002 |
|
B-Day: 10/19/1971 (53) |
|
Posts: 1,752 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Friday, June 15, 2012 at
10:06:10 PM |
IP Logged |
|
It has been left up because CS is in a no-win situation with all of this BS. If we leave it up, then some people will complain that bashing is going on. If we take it down, people will complain because we are censoring their 'free speech'. Seems of late CS is being put in a lot of these no-win situations and I am a bit exhausted with it.
Here is the deal...we are all part of this community. It does not mean we have to like everybody or every site that plays TW. If you do not like a particular site, DO NOT GO THERE! Find somewhere else to play. Start your own tour or website. Frankly, I am sick and tired of all of the complaints and whining that I continue to hear day in and day out. The TW game has been dead on the PC for years now. Sites like this and the other tour sites out there try to continue to keep it alive. All of this backbiting and complaining does nothing but divide the already small community.
If you like to play at CGX, play there. If you don't, don't. If you like to play elsewhere, do it. |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
BULLPUPP2 |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 12/4/2004 |
|
B-Day: 4/30/1964 (61) |
|
Posts: 148 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Friday, June 15, 2012 at
11:03:39 PM |
IP Logged |
|
| edited by: BULLPUPP2 on
Friday, June 15, 2012 at
11:13:00 PM
|
| |
I agree Jeff.
But unfortunately PGX is a business. They are trying to monopolize the TW08 golfers that are left. That is why they took over Clams so that no one else would get a launcher. That is why they took down the old PGAX course from here. There is an alterior motive to everything they do.
They are bullying certain sites (;WCGR) that are just trying to play with friends and have fun. We never have and never will use any CGX courses. We use the old PGAX courses that were publicly available in the past. They are threateng members of WCGR that still play at CGAX and giving them an ultimatum to play here or there and not both. I dont know why they wont just leave us alone. We are not trying to compete with them. Just another option to play a game.
As far as me being acused of being a theif and threatened by Jimbo let me inform you. I was one of the main designers at PGAX for a while. I did many courses from scratch for them as well as repair courses that basically were pretty bad and inaccurate. I was asked to redo some of these courses. I basically stripped them down of trees and some objects. I used Google Earth to plant trees, structures, roads, paths, walls etc. I redid the mostly unplayable greens and mage custum texture sets. I fixed the numerous tears and seams. I tested with friends and none of my courses ever had an unplayable pin. Never was there a public complaint that I know of about a course I did. Needless to say I had over 40 hours into each of these redos. As far as Im concerned they were more my course than theirs.
When CGX selfishly removed the courses from CDT, I decided to re-release them under my name for public download and play. I make no money off of these, unlike CGX.
So if you still think I stole your courses, then call me Robin Hood.
...Bill |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
mikekal100 |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
Canada |
| |
| Joined: 7/5/2005 |
|
B-Day: 8/26/1961 (64) |
|
Posts: 24 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Friday, June 15, 2012 at
11:38:19 PM |
IP Logged |
|
| I hear what your saying Jeff but sometimes in life the bully needs to get smacked back in the face.Bill is right on the money in relation to what he is saying about our WCGR site and if CGX is really concerned about their new CGX courses i know of at least one site that uses their newly released courses weekly on their tour and its not ours thank you very much.But i don't hear members there getting threatened.This all comes down to childish jealousy and behaviour.We have our own community we don't want anything to do with their community end of discussion.And if this does not suit certain people well then get your poop together and grow up ffs. |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
JSJarvis |
|
Site Admin |
|
|
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 1/8/2002 |
|
B-Day: 10/19/1971 (53) |
|
Posts: 1,752 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Saturday, June 16, 2012 at
6:30:39 AM |
IP Logged |
|
| I understand there are 2 sides to every story. I just wish everyone would not put CS in the middle of their fights, which is exactly what is happening. Our site has always tried to be as neutral as possible because we want to be a place where people can come, socialize, get new courses and find new friends. Conversations like this do not belong on this site. It puts us in the middle of a fight between 2 tours, both of which are serving a purpose. I know there are raw feelings on both sides and really wish there was a way everyone could just move on and try to enjoy the game with no more bickering and pointing of fingers. I know I am probably living in a fantasy world hoping for that, but I don't like this site being put in the middle of this. |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
meast32 |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 7/16/2007 |
|
B-Day: 2/8/1959 (66) |
|
Posts: 14 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Saturday, June 16, 2012 at
11:33:07 AM |
IP Logged |
|
You know i never post on this board but I have to put my 2 cents in.
I don't understand how people can bitch about any site that is trying to keep
this game alive. This game was abandoned by EA and kept alive by people who put there
time and effort in to keeping us playing. You must love the TW08 game or you wouldn't be
here. I appreciate any efforts anyone makes to keep new courses coming and providing
places to play online. I there are faults, so what, deal with them or go to another
site. Stop crying like 2 year olds and bashing people who devote any of there time
and effort. For Christ's sake people GROW UP!!!!! Its a game not life.....
My 2 cents, Mike |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
mikekal100 |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
Canada |
| |
| Joined: 7/5/2005 |
|
B-Day: 8/26/1961 (64) |
|
Posts: 24 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Saturday, June 16, 2012 at
12:29:25 PM |
IP Logged |
|
| We at WCGR are not bashing we don't give a crap about them we just want to be left alone to do our thing without being threatened and bullied.Also i am one of those people as well as two of my buddies that have put time,effort and our OWN money into building a place for people to come and enjoy this great social game. |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
| |
|
BGravoliciou |
|
General Member |
|
|
|
United States of America |
| |
| Joined: 2/11/2007 |
|
Posts: 123 |
| |
|
| |
| Posted: Saturday, June 16, 2012 at
1:49:35 PM |
IP Logged |
|
|
| "We at WCGR are not bashing we don't give a crap about them we just want to be left alone to do our thing without being threatened and bullied.Also i am one of those people as well as two of my buddies that have put time,effort and our OWN money into building a place for people to come and enjoy this great social game." |
Thats all yer doing dude....bashing. I happen to be part of the CGX comunnity and I happen to part this community here at CourseDownloads...enough guys, we can all tell you hate CGX...some of us have had good experiences there...move on and if your trying to recruit players, use different methods already...
thanks |
| |
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
Topic Locked
|
|
