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| Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 at
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| I made a thread about the beef between 3 clickers and trueswingers and it's gone within the first 30 minutes ? |
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| Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 at
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| edited by: ZB on
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| Chose to delete as this is such an old subject its not worth answering. Will leave it to staff. |
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| Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 at
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| "I made a thread about the beef between 3 clickers and trueswingers and it's gone within the first 30 minutes ?" |
I never saw your post...If was about crying who does what, go somewhere else. |
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| Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 at
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OK lets debate it, 3 click or true swing. Pardon me why I dont participate since Ive seen the argument about 1,000,000 times.
Second, anyone want to comment on the title of this post? No Freedom Here? |
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| Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 at
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| heard it all before,just different people saying the same thing,or maybe the same people repeating themselfs,hehe. |
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| Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 at
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| Personally, I think there is plenty of freedom here. Not an issue with me. I've been known to make the occassional wisecrack myself here. So, long live freedom. As far as the 3 click/TS debate, personally, I can't play TS. Frustrates me to no end, so my swing of choice is 3 click. I think TS takes more coordination if done freehand. But for those who TS with an edge, and I suspect there are many, I think that takes the challenge of TS out of the picture. Makes it as easy as 3 clicking then. I guess I have more respect for a freehand TSer, none for an edger. And then there are 3 clickers out there running slow down programs too, no respect there either. All of this just my opinion of course. |
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| Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 at
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| I'm curious to hear what you said about the beef between the different styles, so long as it wasn't a rehash of everything that's been said over the years. As for freedom, Kevin has allowed more debate about this and other subjects than any other site I frequent, save PGAX. |
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| Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 at
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| edited by: axe360 on
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And thus Slippery1, I think you have made one of the points here. The endless debate over cheats, arises everytime this subject comes up.
And as far as no freedom goes, dont even try to make that an issue.
Denied!!!!!
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| Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 at
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I really do not see anything to debate. It is a game, people play it with the swing they like. I play both 3 click and freehand hzts but primarily 3clk as it is what I have been playing since the beginning of TW99. I say whatever makes the game enjoyable. If you are competing, I do not respect the use of an artificial aid to enhance the swing however. The one debate I would like to see is the use of charts. IMO, I do not like them, but I play the game like golf and not a computer game. My preference, and I do not consider it cheating. But I know in the real game I do not have any device that tells me how much club to add or remove based on elevation or wind, or how far to aim left or right. I learned all of my playing characteristics the saame way in TW that I do on ythe real course. By trial and error, and feel and experience. That is what makes the game fun for me. I play fades, draws, knock downs, drop & stops etc. Much more fun than looking at a chart and seeing it would be an 8 iron 1/2 forward etc. Just my thoughts.
The freedom here is about as good as its gets. I have taken many of my own shots in the forums, and have never had anything censored or deleted. The guys run a good site. |
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| Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2009 at
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| edited by: Hyno Designs on
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It is just like everything else, people just want to master the game, shoot as low as you can, use any edge you can find . I however dont agree with this concept. I want this game to be realistic, on whatever level you are playing at.
If you think the people you are playing with are not playing by the rules, than dont play with them.
Your freedom is dictated by what you say, I learned that, and respect that......
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| Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at
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| edited by: bangus on
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I made a thread about the beef between 3 clickers and trueswingers
I play TW 08 on my laptop while sitting on the sofa. If I use True Swing, the mouse gets caught in the crack between the two cushions. So I 3-click. Are you saying people have a beef with that, and WHY?? |
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| Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at
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If you think the people you are playing with are not playing by the rules, than dont play with them.
That's what I miss about the good old days, before technology and online gaming. If someone wasn't playing by the rules, you could punch them in the face! :)
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| Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at
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Hear Hear on hitting fades and draws...You have waited till the wind coming from the 2 o'clock direction at 3mph...you have aimed a little right...and will fade or cut your shot to compesate...but just as you hit your shot...you see out of the corner of your eye the
wind has jumped to 6mph...so with the swing meter moving...YOU in a split second have to hit your shot a little harder and cut it a little more than planed...clicking to stop the meter to adjust yor shot...ALL IN A SPLIT SECOND...I find this GREAT FUN AND VERY EXCITING
when i pull of these shots...as should anyone...it is a game after all
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| Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 at
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"I really do not see anything to debate. It is a game, people play it with the swing they like. I play both 3 click and freehand hzts but primarily 3clk as it is what I have been playing since the beginning of TW99. I say whatever makes the game enjoyable. If you are competing, I do not respect the use of an artificial aid to enhance the swing however. The one debate I would like to see is the use of charts. IMO, I do not like them, but I play the game like golf and not a computer game. My preference, and I do not consider it cheating. But I know in the real game I do not have any device that tells me how much club to add or remove based on elevation or wind, or how far to aim left or right. I learned all of my playing characteristics the saame way in TW that I do on ythe real course. By trial and error, and feel and experience. That is what makes the game fun for me. I play fades, draws, knock downs, drop & stops etc. Much more fun than looking at a chart and seeing it would be an 8 iron 1/2 forward etc. Just my thoughts.
The freedom here is about as good as its gets. I have taken many of my own shots in the forums, and have never had anything censored or deleted. The guys run a good site." |
Extremely well said! |
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| Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 at
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and one more thing, wasn't Freedom a bad George Michaels song? It shouldn't be allowed anywhere!
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| Posted: Saturday, January 24, 2009 at
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| edited by: Bruco on
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We allow all methods and try to compensate odds with handicap.
If someone use a cheat to improve his swing, after 5 games his handicap will penalize him.
After first season we have 4/5 players play regularly with different swing systems (;2-click, 3-click, true swing) but noone has advantage over other players.
I think every swing method have benefit or drawback and with handicap we compensate it.
P.S.: Our Handicap calculation is self-made with official calculation formulae based on par, slope and rating of any course. It seems to be a good system.
P.S.: Freedom is not a locked or unlocked post (;right or wrong it is).....it is writing, speak and answer....i think you can here, so dont worry... you are free. |
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