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| Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 at
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Hi,
I made up this club distance chart for a quick reference when playing in EXPERT level. It doesnt include all clubs (i.e. 2I, 1I, 7w, 6w, 4w, 2w) nor all shot types (punch shot).
hope you will find it helpful.
If you are unable to download the text file, the info is here below.
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Club distance
EXPERT Level
D9 Full M 300
F 295
3W Full M 270
F 260
5W Full M 235
F 220
3I Full M 215
F 200
4I Full M 205
F 195
5I Full M 195
F 185
6I Full M 185
F 175
7I Full M 170
F 158
8I Full M 160
F 145
9I Full M 145
F 130
PW Full M 135
F 120
Pitch M 115
F 96
Chip M 35
F 20
Flop M 35 yrds
F 23 yrds
SW Full M 100
F 90
Pitch M 78
F 65
Chip M 25
F 45 feet
Flop M 22 yrds
F 35 feet
LW Full M 80
F 70
Pitch M 60
F 50
Chip M 20
F 30 feet
Flop M 44 feet
F 23 feet
• M = Middle position on Slide Bar
• F = Forward position on Slide Bar
I didn’t include Back Position on slide bar since I rarely use it.
You will need to adjust club distance accordingly for wind, rain, and rough. |
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Otto Kriete |
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| Posted: Friday, January 11, 2008 at
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| What shaft flex and ball type is this for? Oh,...... and thank you . |
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Bud Kine |
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| Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 at
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Otto,
thnx for the question and for looking. i dont recall what equipment i was using at the time, its been too long ago and my mind is getting feeble with age, lol, and, for all i know, i may have been smoking my medicine that day. but, youll find that practicing with these settings in a still wind on a flat course will give you a very good indication of how close these yardages are for the equipment your set with, then you can adjust accordingly. as always, hl & gf!!! -)
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jurgie |
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| Posted: Saturday, March 1, 2008 at
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| Here is an interesting observation I made in regards to club distance charts and Expert level of play. I just recently started playing an online tour which I had never before attempted with the TW platform, just the old Links 2K3 game. I searched the forums and found players that were kind enough to share their charts with me. I now have four different ones,and everyone of them reflects different distances for the comparitively same lies. This got me curious as to why this would be so I posed this question to a friend who plays online consistantly. The first thing she pointed out is something that I had already known. Club distances can and will vary when playing online opposed to just regular play within the game at any ability level. I was also informed that the online tour play is regulated to the default 75% attributes in all categories which is what is given to a created player when you create him as a Pro player. As probably all of you know higher attribute level results in greater club distances, more successful excecution of trouble shots as well as a smoother putting stroke. Raising those attribute can only be done by accumulation of experience points which are only earned by playing the game created tournaments and various challenges. The method she uses to gain club distance information is to go into Online Play within the game. Then into LAN instead of EASO, with her player set to Advanced and not Expert. This enables her to determine the online club distances because they are reflected in the Advanced level where they are not in Expert. Playing a round at any chosen downloaded course allows her to record the club distances that are set forth for all the various lies and shot types. Sounds simple enough but I have found that the club distances are not really consistant especially in online play. Just looking at the various charts I have, there is sometimes as much as a 7yd. difference in distance between the various clubs and lies. That doesnt seem like a lot but when playing very dry greens in tournament play it could be the difference of having a 60 putt instead of a 15 footer. You really dont want to be looking at those 60 footers all day long. As an experiment, I went into LAN play yesterday as an Advanced player, chose a course to play and recorded all the club distances with every possible lie available. I returned to online play at Expert level using the same course settings and the same course I had chosen when recording these club distances. In some instances they were fairly close, but in a lot of instances they were not. Someone tried to tell me that that is beauty of Expert Level, the fact that you have to figure the distances out in relation to wind, elevation and other existing conditions which might prevail. I say nonsence, although wind, elevation, lie, and accurately executing the shot by the use of the 3 click swing meter lets say, definitely has a bearing on the distance the ball travels. Somewhere you have to start out with a distance that is constant. That is why you have the club distance slider bar within the game as well as 14 different clubs. Every touring pro knows what the distance of his clubs are at a full swing off the tee or fairway under normal conditions. By knowing that he is able to compensate for wind, elevation, lies or any other existing conditions. The default position in the center of the slider bar should always be a consistant yardage and it really doesnt matter what it is as long as it is the same. How can you make an intelligent club choice if the club you choose is assigned a different yardage from round to round or course to course? In Expert mode it really becomes a guessing game. In Expert mode the expertise should be knowing what the default distance is and then applying your knowledge in regards to lies, elevations, wind and all other factors to be considered by the use of the slider bar or different club choice.
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Riddick51PB |
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| Posted: Friday, March 7, 2008 at
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anybody got post #1 for NOVICE level?
link me to a NOVICE club chart.
thanks
or you can tell me how to create one, although my player can drive like 450 yards in practice, so tell me how to get around that, down to the numbers ill see when im playing in a novice tournament round - thank you |
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jbcalg |
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| Posted: Friday, March 7, 2008 at
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| edited by: jbcalg on
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create a custom game using a Pro Player
(attributes are fixed at 75%, same as online play)
enable mulligans
the Caddy identifies the club yardage
write it down
hit it,
use mulligan to hit it again
move slider
write it down
etc
etc
why do you need charts when the game gives you the distance at that level? |
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| Posted: Friday, March 7, 2008 at
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| Playing at the expert level is not going to be consistant, just like REAL golf is. Dont expect it to be either. Playing at the expert level, for me, since I have played real golf many times, is about as close as it gets to the real thing. You arent going to have consistant iron yardages ALL the time in real golf. If you hit a shot fat or thin, that automatically changes the trajectory of the shot as well as the yardage. If its cool or cold, the ball isnt going to travel as far as it would if it were warm of hot. Expert golf play is not meant to be 100% accurate. Its a challenge and it has always been a challenge. There is NOTHING consistant about real golf, so this game is no different. You cant expect to figure out these iron yardages until you play 20 or more rounds. JMO. |
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jmeier |
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| Posted: Monday, March 10, 2008 at
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Riddick, for novice, you can always click over the club in the bag and it will tell you how far it will go for a given lie.
Jurgie, in 08, lie effect has been greatly improved. The harder the level, the stronger the effect. In expert is is in full force and you will rarely get a true level lie except on the tee. On the tee on a par 3, I will hit my clubs very consistent. But you you need to look for, just like in real golf, and the yardage every pro knows, and has recorded in their caddy books is the CARRY yardage. The distance from which the ball leaves the clubface to the time it firsts contacts the ground. This needs to be then adjusted for lie direction, lie quality(rough, sand, etc) moving the slider will change the ball tragectory changing the carry distance as well as affecting the bounce/roll. How much the ball will bounce and roll varies tremendously. Learning the yardages is as JB notes from practice and playing experience. I can hit say my pitching wedge to pretty much the exact same spot from a tee box in still winds everytime, providing my swing cooperates and hit to the same quality. from the time the ball lands, till it comes to rest is a different story. Charts are good for getting the basics down when you are getting started I would suppose, have never tried one, but the best is to practice, play, and if need be, make your own caddy book, or use the in game caddy notes to keep track. I play my weekly tour rounds almost always in a foursome online. Our yardages are never the same even on the same hole same club. I for example am 1/2 to 1 1/2 clubs longer on average than the other 3 typically. This mostly due to shaft, ball, and club head choices, but also due to changes in the slider bar as I desire. Using the shot tracer path is also a great knowledge device. it really boils down to what you are looking for in this game. I play my game similar to my real game, using the yardage to the target, estimating my landing spot by looking at the target, determining what shot type I want, and the factor of the wind and the lie. Have fun, and continue to ask questions as needed to get the most out of your game. |
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| Posted: Thursday, April 17, 2008 at
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I am a Novice player but I want to know about club distance. I swing in the middle and full, and all my level are 100%. So I want to know what clubs and can use? By the way my distance on the clubs that I use changes yards.
Thanks,
RJ
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jimi |
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| Posted: Saturday, April 19, 2008 at
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| You can use the slider to adjust your shots. In novice mode it will even give you the corresponding distance. Put the slider top the left and you will have less roll on your ball, put it to the right and youll get more. Thats basically it. |
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